And Computer World still has stock (minus 1 that I bought last night!)

http://www.cworld.com.au/products/Laptop/17+inch/Apple

Rod


On 15/06/2012, at 12:58 PM, David Wood wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Have you tried Zero Three in Victoria for 17" Macbook Pro.  1300  
> 036227 - a friend of a friend managed to secure one from them  
> yesterday.
>
> David
>
>
> On 15/06/2012, at 10:22 AM, cm wrote:
>
> Yes, true. There is always a risk involved when buying refurbished.  
> Sometimes they have been returned with a problem and repaired. If  
> you are lucky they have been returned because the user changed their  
> mind about the screen size or about switching from Windows -- but of  
> course one will never know when you buy a refurbished model.
>
> Regards,
> Carlo
>
> On 15/06/2012, at 10:19 , Ronda Brown wrote:
>
>> Yes Carlo, but they are refurbished 17" MacBook Pros... not new!  
>> That is a big difference.
>> I know they come with the full Apple Warranty - 12 months hardware  
>> etc, but I want a new MacBook Pro NOT a refurbished MBP :(
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>
>> On 15/06/2012, at 10:13 AM, cm wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, you're right. I got the wrong terminology for the warranties.  
>>> You can thank me later for pointing you to the last of the 17"  
>>> MacBook Pro in stock. :-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>> On 15/06/2012, at 10:08 , Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Carlo
>>>>
>>>> Not meaning to be pedantic, or sound like I"m being rude,…
>>>> but I think you mean "full Apple warranty". (i.e. 12 months  
>>>> hardware warranty and 90 days Apple phone support).
>>>> "AppleCare" warranty is the extended warranty that is 3 years  
>>>> hardware and phone support.
>>>> (Which you can still purchase on the refurb units as well,..)
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to clarify that just incase. :o)
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>> MacWizardry
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>>
>>>> On 15/06/2012, at 9:59 AM, cm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you still want a 17" MacBook Pro they appear to be available  
>>>>> still as refurbished models. They come with the full AppleCare  
>>>>> warranty.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://store.apple.com/au/product/FC723
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/06/2012, at 22:09 , Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ronni
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, knew you wouldn't be a very happy vegemite. (Could double  
>>>>>> tell seeing as you posted the same link from my message as  
>>>>>> well :oP) LOL. (Sorry, couldn't resist,…must be that lack of  
>>>>>> sleep from storms and no food or coffee) :oP
>>>>>> I think there are quite a few "let down" MacBook Pro 17"  
>>>>>> owners, who are having to look at the 15" MBP-RD. Or a 15" with  
>>>>>> an external screen,…which doesn't always work for every  
>>>>>> environment. One of my clients only works with her laptop on  
>>>>>> the kitchen table then puts it away when people come over. So  
>>>>>> looking at a 15" with external screen isn't really an option as  
>>>>>> it's too much to lug around to put it away. So a downgrade from  
>>>>>> 17" to 15" isn't her most favourite option either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And not many places have the just superseded 17" left  in  
>>>>>> Perth. (Wholesalers didn't, Joondalup didn't, MaxStyle  
>>>>>> didn't,..bar the previous model ex demo). Stocks were pretty  
>>>>>> much out before it was discontinued,…)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So yeh,..can understand where you're coming from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>>>> MacWizardry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/06/2012, at 10:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am so disappointed that Apple are discontinuing the 17"  
>>>>>>> MacBook Pro. I have been waiting for an upgrade to be announced.
>>>>>>> Dropping support for their top of the range, two highest  
>>>>>>> professional Computers, the Mac Pro & 17" MacBook Pro. Purely  
>>>>>>> because they don't sell as many as other models!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple are now catering for the multi media, social media  
>>>>>>> customers, not the professional users.
>>>>>>> I have always updated every one of laptops; 17" PowerBook, 17"  
>>>>>>> MacBook Pro to latest models when released. Now Apple want to  
>>>>>>> force me to use a 15" MacBook Pro... When I want the extra  
>>>>>>> size screen ... A 17" screen!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ronni is NOT a Happy Little Vegemite :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some interesting reviews at AnandTech.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MacBook Pro Retina Display Analysis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis 
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows 8 on the Retina Display MacBook Pro
>>>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/6008/windows-8-on-the-retina-display-macbook-pro
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hard to say, Cheers Ronni
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 9:52 PM, Daniel Kerr  
>>>>>>> <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Carlo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Though I agree with you on the screen, and I'm not arguing  
>>>>>>>> that point that it's a great machine,.. (not matter how many  
>>>>>>>> times you quote that comment) :oP my "concern" (and I use  
>>>>>>>> that term lightly,..more of a query perhaps),..is how the  
>>>>>>>> screen will handle "upsizing" or scaling or whatever it's  
>>>>>>>> called of non Retina written software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The last three paragraphs of this article are a bit of what  
>>>>>>>> I'm thinking…
>>>>>>>> <http://www.extremetech.com/computing/130819-analyzing-the-macbook-pro-with-retina-display/2
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because I know what "doubling" on the iPad is like for non  
>>>>>>>> native Apps. It can look chunky and clunky and "messy". Also,  
>>>>>>>> how small does everything when it's running at "really big  
>>>>>>>> resolution".
>>>>>>>> I work with a CTO 15" Antiglare HiRes Screen as it is with my  
>>>>>>>> MacBookPro and yes, I enjoy the extra space that it gives  
>>>>>>>> when compared to the "normal" non HiRes screen, but at what  
>>>>>>>> point does the font size become too small that it's difficult  
>>>>>>>> to read.
>>>>>>>> And with the upscaling of non "Retina-aware" applications  
>>>>>>>> what do the fonts and text look like,..or will look like. I  
>>>>>>>> know it will be fine for the Apple Apps as they have been re- 
>>>>>>>> written to work with it. But other apps (such as Filemaker),  
>>>>>>>> which (I think) isn't written for it (haven't played with  
>>>>>>>> version 12, so can't comment fully), but those sort of things  
>>>>>>>> are ones that just interest me to see how it does it. That's  
>>>>>>>> just one of the "issues" I'm still not up with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I'm probably not explaining this very well.
>>>>>>>> I think this page sort of helps what I'm trying to explain.  
>>>>>>>> Where they show Google Chrome working against Safari on a MBP- 
>>>>>>>> RD
>>>>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> (About half way down the page under "Application Support for  
>>>>>>>> Retina Display".
>>>>>>>> I don't actually use Google Chrome myself, I use Safari, but  
>>>>>>>> I'm just using this as an example.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know I probably won't get an idea on this, until I've seen  
>>>>>>>> one of the laptops in the "flesh" and have a play with it to  
>>>>>>>> see how it handles it all. And then see how it compares with  
>>>>>>>> the standard range.
>>>>>>>> (Of which if I did go for the standard MacBookPro, then I'd  
>>>>>>>> still get the CTO option of the Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen -  
>>>>>>>> as it's only $120. As that runs at a native resolution of  
>>>>>>>> 1680 x 1050 versus 1440x900 for the normal screen).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And yes, like you, the old "it's a brand new model, before of  
>>>>>>>> version1.0 things is always a bit of a concern too. I'm sure  
>>>>>>>> Apple test that thing to all it's limits, but sometimes just  
>>>>>>>> waiting to the second revision of a product lets them "iron  
>>>>>>>> out" any other "bugs" (or features depending how you look at  
>>>>>>>> it,…lol) once it's released into the wild. :o)
>>>>>>>> It was like that with the PowerBook G4. The last PowerBook G4  
>>>>>>>> (1.67GHz) they released was the best well built feature set  
>>>>>>>> laptop they made (at the time). Because by that time they had  
>>>>>>>> ironed out everything that was missing and improved on to get  
>>>>>>>> it perfect. :) (I suppose a bit like OSX 10.0 compared with  
>>>>>>>> others really,…lol).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway,..I'm rambling again. I don't think I can really  
>>>>>>>> decide/comment much further until there are some *real* real  
>>>>>>>> world tests, or I've actually had time to see or play with it  
>>>>>>>> to see what it's really like. (And it may be one of those  
>>>>>>>> things. Once you see it and get your hands on it, you decide  
>>>>>>>> any of the "issues" really aren't "issues".) Either that or  
>>>>>>>> I'll stay with the "standard looking" MacBookPro for this  
>>>>>>>> year, til the next update comes out,….lol :o)
>>>>>>>> Hopefully they'll have one in the AppleStore in town to look  
>>>>>>>> at when I go in to get my wifes dead iPhone looked at. It's  
>>>>>>>> just dead. Nothing will revive it. Bit strange for an 18mth  
>>>>>>>> old iPhone 4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>>>>>> MacWizardry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 11:19 AM, cm wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With all that you said I still see no advantage in the old  
>>>>>>>>> model. Whatever you need to do, the new model will do it  
>>>>>>>>> (only quicker). The new Retina MBP is truly a technical  
>>>>>>>>> marvel. To quote again "it is the best computer Apple has  
>>>>>>>>> ever produced".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just the display is worth the price of entry. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some caveats. Because it is so new, I would probably wait a  
>>>>>>>>> month or so to see if there are any problems with the  
>>>>>>>>> graphics card or the circuitry to iron out. Highly unlikely  
>>>>>>>>> with Apple's testing and Tim Cook wanting to appear  
>>>>>>>>> competent but it is still a possibility. It did occur to me  
>>>>>>>>> also that one may not be able to expand the new MBP as in  
>>>>>>>>> the case of the MacBook Air but I am not sure that will be  
>>>>>>>>> the case. For the MacBook Air they have that restriction in  
>>>>>>>>> place because of the nature of the case -- it give  
>>>>>>>>> advantages in strength and makes it more watertight. If that  
>>>>>>>>> were the case with the new Retina MBP I would be tempted to  
>>>>>>>>> buy the highest spec one I could afford from the get go.  
>>>>>>>>> True you would not be able to upgrade it, but as a trade off  
>>>>>>>>> the unit would be stronger -- time will tell on this point.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 10:39 , Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, had all those points.
>>>>>>>>>> Just to add to yours those. I don't "really" have to lose  
>>>>>>>>>> the Optical drive if I fit an SSD drive. I already have an  
>>>>>>>>>> SSD drive in this laptop. (I removed my 750GB 7200rpm drive  
>>>>>>>>>> and put in a Series6 SSD 256GB Drive. So I still get to  
>>>>>>>>>> keep my Optical drive and have the speed performance of the  
>>>>>>>>>> SSD. So I could do the same with the new one. Just swap  
>>>>>>>>>> over the drive.) I then get both SSD and Optical still :o)
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, do have to carry run lots of cables. I was doing all  
>>>>>>>>>> that before anyway. Plus I always have in my pocket a  
>>>>>>>>>> Firewire800/400 adapter. It just clips to the end of a  
>>>>>>>>>> FW400 cable. So even if I have no cables, I still have the  
>>>>>>>>>> adapter. Plus it's lighter. Mind you my pocket carries 2  
>>>>>>>>>> flash drives, that adapter and a pocket knife,…lol.
>>>>>>>>>> And I already carry three external drives as well (2  
>>>>>>>>>> Firewire/USB multiport drives and 1 USB bootable drive).  
>>>>>>>>>> They have a stack of what I need on them. So I can keep my  
>>>>>>>>>> SSD pretty lean anyway. I actually only run on about 100GB  
>>>>>>>>>> at most on the SSD. So plenty of room to work with. :o)
>>>>>>>>>> I think the ports work out about the same kinda. Cause if  
>>>>>>>>>> you had the MBP-RD and needed to be on Ethernet, using  
>>>>>>>>>> Firewire then you're out of pots on the MBP-RD but you  
>>>>>>>>>> still have the Thunderbolt free on the "standard" MBP. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The top MBP and entry level MBP-RD work out the same price  
>>>>>>>>>> (RRP $2499), so I was basing it on that. But yes, as you  
>>>>>>>>>> add more RAM and drives versus adapters, then the pricing  
>>>>>>>>>> changes quite a bit. So the old MBP would work out more  
>>>>>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But yes, there are lots of good reasons for both. It just  
>>>>>>>>>> comes down to what the person wants to do with it.
>>>>>>>>>> It's a bit like the argument to go with a 256GB SSD versus  
>>>>>>>>>> the 500GB SSD. (Or flash drive). Is it with the $600 odd on  
>>>>>>>>>> various machines. Or can you lean out what you store on the  
>>>>>>>>>> machine and keep an external USB drive with you. (Or at  
>>>>>>>>>> home). Some will see the value that extra storage space  
>>>>>>>>>> will be to have it internally and $600 will be fine. Others  
>>>>>>>>>> will take the 256GB SSD and buy a 500GB USB drive (which is  
>>>>>>>>>> about $100-$150 depending on brands etc). It's perception  
>>>>>>>>>> of value versus useful versus budget.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That was another thing with the new MBP-RD. You can't "add"  
>>>>>>>>>> to it if you have. Budget restrictions mean you can buy a  
>>>>>>>>>> standard MBP and then down the track add in more RAM later  
>>>>>>>>>> (take it from 8GB to 16GB) and as pricing comes down take  
>>>>>>>>>> out the normal drive and add in an SSD of your choice at a  
>>>>>>>>>> later date. I could be wrong, but I think you have to make  
>>>>>>>>>> all those choices with the MBP-RD at the start as you can't  
>>>>>>>>>> modify it later on. I haven't looked at that point with  
>>>>>>>>>> detail, so as mentioned could be wrong, but was just  
>>>>>>>>>> something i had thought of last night after my other  
>>>>>>>>>> post,..lol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still though, I'm still un-decided on both,…lol. :o) I  
>>>>>>>>>> think they're both great machines, I can just see some of  
>>>>>>>>>> the advantages/disadvatages to both :o) And that may be the  
>>>>>>>>>> same for other people looking at both machines as well.
>>>>>>>>>> Some will suit one person, some will suit others. That's  
>>>>>>>>>> the nature of the beast.
>>>>>>>>>> But hey, if we had little choice and only had one, there  
>>>>>>>>>> would still be lots to decide! lol ;))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>>>>>>>> MacWizardry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 11:57 PM, cm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The rarefied field of the computer service person is not  
>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone. I also operate in the field and have a kit  
>>>>>>>>>>> of accessories that I bring along, but I would point out  
>>>>>>>>>>> that the older MBP is not that far ahead even for this  
>>>>>>>>>>> purpose. The kit of accessories for either MBP still  
>>>>>>>>>>> requires that you bring an assortment of cables, thumb- 
>>>>>>>>>>> drive, and one or more external hard-drives.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here are some points to note.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * If weight is your concern the Retina MBP starts out life  
>>>>>>>>>>> a full half a kilo (one pound imperial) lighter than the  
>>>>>>>>>>> older MBP!
>>>>>>>>>>> * The old MBP does not have that many extra ports. It has  
>>>>>>>>>>> one fewer thunderbolt port and it lacks the HDMI port of  
>>>>>>>>>>> the Retina MBP. The only extra ports are Firewire 800 and  
>>>>>>>>>>> ethernet. These are available to the Retina MBP via  
>>>>>>>>>>> thunderbolt adaptors.
>>>>>>>>>>> * A big advantage of flash drives over mechanical ones is  
>>>>>>>>>>> that they are physically more robust and thus less prone  
>>>>>>>>>>> to damage by rough handling or dropping.
>>>>>>>>>>> * Flash drives are, of course, much faster and boot up  
>>>>>>>>>>> more quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>> * If, as you suggest, you fit an SSD drive in an old style  
>>>>>>>>>>> MBP then you lose the optical drive.
>>>>>>>>>>> * Even with the Firewire 800 port you still have to  
>>>>>>>>>>> remember to bring along the two styles of firewire cable  
>>>>>>>>>>> if you want to be prepared for all contingencies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only real inarguable advantage of the old style MBP is  
>>>>>>>>>>> that they are cheaper, but as the price of flash drives  
>>>>>>>>>>> come down that advantage will likely evaporate too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 23:00 , Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It comes down to your needs I feel. As Carlo's mentioned  
>>>>>>>>>>>> there are good and bad to both of them. Again, it depends  
>>>>>>>>>>>> on your "primary" usage. And what you don't mind "losing"  
>>>>>>>>>>>> to "gain".
>>>>>>>>>>>> Both the 15" MacBook Pro and the 15" MacBook Pro Retina  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Display (MBP-RD) actually have the same Graphics card  
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty much. (I'm comparing both $2499 models).
>>>>>>>>>>>> They both use the Intel HD Graphics 4000 and NVIDIA  
>>>>>>>>>>>> GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory and automatic  
>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics switching. So that part is the same on both  
>>>>>>>>>>>> models.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And I would think the "standard" MacBook Pro 15" will  
>>>>>>>>>>>> still go to 16GB RAM as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> (I'm working on an early 2011 MacBook Pro 15" that Apple  
>>>>>>>>>>>> say can go to 8GB RAM,..and I'm running it with 16GB  
>>>>>>>>>>>> PC10600 1333MHz RAM. And it runs fine.) So I'd say people  
>>>>>>>>>>>> will find that can be bumped up as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The "Standard" MacBook Pro has a slightly faster  
>>>>>>>>>>>> processor at 2.6GHz versus 2.3GHz. But how much of a  
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference this is in real world speeds, would depend on  
>>>>>>>>>>>> the task.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly out of the box, I'd say the MBP-RD which has  
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Flash Storage built in would make data access a lot  
>>>>>>>>>>>> faster. Whereas it would cost $480 to add a 256MB SSD  
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to the "standard" MacBookPro. So data access would  
>>>>>>>>>>>> be a win there. (And I'm not to sure how much of a  
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference Flash Storage versus SSD in "real world tests"  
>>>>>>>>>>>> accounts for…that and my brain is in almost sleep mode to  
>>>>>>>>>>>> go look it up,…lol).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And then it comes down to your connections you want to  
>>>>>>>>>>>> use. For some people that are moving around a lot, and  
>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on the field they're in, they still want "quick  
>>>>>>>>>>>> access" to things like Firewire, Ethernet, Optical Drive.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> (yes, I know this doesn't affect everyone and it comes  
>>>>>>>>>>>> down to their "use of the laptop", and that you can hang  
>>>>>>>>>>>> off adapters of the MBP-RD, but at the end of the day,  
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's ease of use and quick access. Do you want to carry  
>>>>>>>>>>>> around a Thunderbolt to Firewire800 adapter, a  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter, a Thunderbolt Optical  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive. Sure, not everyone has use for these things. But  
>>>>>>>>>>>> again, in some circumstances some people do. On the read  
>>>>>>>>>>>> of various forums a lot of mobile editors and tech  
>>>>>>>>>>>> support people do still want these things. They (we?)  
>>>>>>>>>>>> carry enough stuff around in our bag without adding to  
>>>>>>>>>>>> it. And if you leave it behind or it "drops off" during a  
>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer, you've wasted time. (And time is money as they  
>>>>>>>>>>>> say,…lol). "Oh sorry, I can't access your Firewire drive  
>>>>>>>>>>>> today, I left my Thunderbolt to Firewire800 adapter with  
>>>>>>>>>>>> my last client. I'll have to come back"). Again, this  
>>>>>>>>>>>> won't affect everyone,….I'll just trying to point out  
>>>>>>>>>>>> both sides of the coin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I certainly don't think for some it will be an easy  
>>>>>>>>>>>> decision. I know I've looked at which model I'd like. And  
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'll need to sit down and weigh up the pros and  
>>>>>>>>>>>> cons of both. And what is it exactly I want out of the  
>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop. What features are the "must have" and what  
>>>>>>>>>>>> features are the "can work around or live with". Is the  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Retina Display going to be "huge" in the type of work I  
>>>>>>>>>>>> do, versus the (sometimes) need for "legacy items" in the  
>>>>>>>>>>>> type of work I do. (How much more weight can my back  
>>>>>>>>>>>> support in all the extras I have to or need to carry  
>>>>>>>>>>>> around,…lol).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I think they're both great machines  
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the new MBP-RD looks to be a great machine, and will  
>>>>>>>>>>>> only get better from there I'm sure. But it's what tool  
>>>>>>>>>>>> is the best for the job…..
>>>>>>>>>>>> And one will suit some people, and not others. And vice  
>>>>>>>>>>>> versa. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that info helps. That's my take or view point on it  
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. ;))
>>>>>>>>>>>> And on that note, I think I'll go finish my last few  
>>>>>>>>>>>> emails for the night and finish my 2.5 day straight stint  
>>>>>>>>>>>> of work,…lol. :o)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>>>>>>>>>> MacWizardry
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 10:26 PM, cm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're involved with content production with Final  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cut Pro or Photoshop or if you do software development,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new 15" Retina Display MacBook Pro looks amazing.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stunning amount of processor power, the fast huge  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM capacity, the enormous flash drive, and the still  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> long battery life given the retina display seem more  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminiscent of a server than a thin light laptop. Also  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the discrete graphics card, apart from being a must for  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gamers (which I am not) will provide a bank of GPU  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> processing power that is being utilized by more and more  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with a line that I heard during the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keynote, it is the best computer that Apple has ever  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> produced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: they also finally said goodbye to the primitive,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> large buggy pieces of foil coated plastic known as DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 21:14, Pedro <pfow...@iinet.net.au>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Blitto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The new MacBook Air will be my choice. This article may  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/172812/should-you-get-the-new-macbook-pro-probably-not-heres-why/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 8:47 PM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi GuysAll of you who were looking forward to the new  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook pros -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please do you have an opinion as to which one you  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would purchase?And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why?tablitto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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