And Computer World still has stock (minus 1 that I bought last night!) http://www.cworld.com.au/products/Laptop/17+inch/Apple
Rod On 15/06/2012, at 12:58 PM, David Wood wrote: > Hi all, > > Have you tried Zero Three in Victoria for 17" Macbook Pro. 1300 > 036227 - a friend of a friend managed to secure one from them > yesterday. > > David > > > On 15/06/2012, at 10:22 AM, cm wrote: > > Yes, true. There is always a risk involved when buying refurbished. > Sometimes they have been returned with a problem and repaired. If > you are lucky they have been returned because the user changed their > mind about the screen size or about switching from Windows -- but of > course one will never know when you buy a refurbished model. > > Regards, > Carlo > > On 15/06/2012, at 10:19 , Ronda Brown wrote: > >> Yes Carlo, but they are refurbished 17" MacBook Pros... not new! >> That is a big difference. >> I know they come with the full Apple Warranty - 12 months hardware >> etc, but I want a new MacBook Pro NOT a refurbished MBP :( >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> On 15/06/2012, at 10:13 AM, cm wrote: >> >>> Yes, you're right. I got the wrong terminology for the warranties. >>> You can thank me later for pointing you to the last of the 17" >>> MacBook Pro in stock. :-) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Carlo >>> >>> On 15/06/2012, at 10:08 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Carlo >>>> >>>> Not meaning to be pedantic, or sound like I"m being rude,… >>>> but I think you mean "full Apple warranty". (i.e. 12 months >>>> hardware warranty and 90 days Apple phone support). >>>> "AppleCare" warranty is the extended warranty that is 3 years >>>> hardware and phone support. >>>> (Which you can still purchase on the refurb units as well,..) >>>> >>>> Just wanted to clarify that just incase. :o) >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Apple** >>>> >>>> On 15/06/2012, at 9:59 AM, cm wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> If you still want a 17" MacBook Pro they appear to be available >>>>> still as refurbished models. They come with the full AppleCare >>>>> warranty. >>>>> >>>>> http://store.apple.com/au/product/FC723 >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Carlo >>>>> >>>>> On 14/06/2012, at 22:09 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, knew you wouldn't be a very happy vegemite. (Could double >>>>>> tell seeing as you posted the same link from my message as >>>>>> well :oP) LOL. (Sorry, couldn't resist,…must be that lack of >>>>>> sleep from storms and no food or coffee) :oP >>>>>> I think there are quite a few "let down" MacBook Pro 17" >>>>>> owners, who are having to look at the 15" MBP-RD. Or a 15" with >>>>>> an external screen,…which doesn't always work for every >>>>>> environment. One of my clients only works with her laptop on >>>>>> the kitchen table then puts it away when people come over. So >>>>>> looking at a 15" with external screen isn't really an option as >>>>>> it's too much to lug around to put it away. So a downgrade from >>>>>> 17" to 15" isn't her most favourite option either. >>>>>> >>>>>> And not many places have the just superseded 17" left in >>>>>> Perth. (Wholesalers didn't, Joondalup didn't, MaxStyle >>>>>> didn't,..bar the previous model ex demo). Stocks were pretty >>>>>> much out before it was discontinued,…) >>>>>> >>>>>> So yeh,..can understand where you're coming from. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>> >>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14/06/2012, at 10:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am so disappointed that Apple are discontinuing the 17" >>>>>>> MacBook Pro. I have been waiting for an upgrade to be announced. >>>>>>> Dropping support for their top of the range, two highest >>>>>>> professional Computers, the Mac Pro & 17" MacBook Pro. Purely >>>>>>> because they don't sell as many as other models! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple are now catering for the multi media, social media >>>>>>> customers, not the professional users. >>>>>>> I have always updated every one of laptops; 17" PowerBook, 17" >>>>>>> MacBook Pro to latest models when released. Now Apple want to >>>>>>> force me to use a 15" MacBook Pro... When I want the extra >>>>>>> size screen ... A 17" screen! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ronni is NOT a Happy Little Vegemite :( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some interesting reviews at AnandTech. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MacBook Pro Retina Display Analysis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Windows 8 on the Retina Display MacBook Pro >>>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/6008/windows-8-on-the-retina-display-macbook-pro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hard to say, Cheers Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 9:52 PM, Daniel Kerr >>>>>>> <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Carlo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Though I agree with you on the screen, and I'm not arguing >>>>>>>> that point that it's a great machine,.. (not matter how many >>>>>>>> times you quote that comment) :oP my "concern" (and I use >>>>>>>> that term lightly,..more of a query perhaps),..is how the >>>>>>>> screen will handle "upsizing" or scaling or whatever it's >>>>>>>> called of non Retina written software. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The last three paragraphs of this article are a bit of what >>>>>>>> I'm thinking… >>>>>>>> <http://www.extremetech.com/computing/130819-analyzing-the-macbook-pro-with-retina-display/2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because I know what "doubling" on the iPad is like for non >>>>>>>> native Apps. It can look chunky and clunky and "messy". Also, >>>>>>>> how small does everything when it's running at "really big >>>>>>>> resolution". >>>>>>>> I work with a CTO 15" Antiglare HiRes Screen as it is with my >>>>>>>> MacBookPro and yes, I enjoy the extra space that it gives >>>>>>>> when compared to the "normal" non HiRes screen, but at what >>>>>>>> point does the font size become too small that it's difficult >>>>>>>> to read. >>>>>>>> And with the upscaling of non "Retina-aware" applications >>>>>>>> what do the fonts and text look like,..or will look like. I >>>>>>>> know it will be fine for the Apple Apps as they have been re- >>>>>>>> written to work with it. But other apps (such as Filemaker), >>>>>>>> which (I think) isn't written for it (haven't played with >>>>>>>> version 12, so can't comment fully), but those sort of things >>>>>>>> are ones that just interest me to see how it does it. That's >>>>>>>> just one of the "issues" I'm still not up with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, I'm probably not explaining this very well. >>>>>>>> I think this page sort of helps what I'm trying to explain. >>>>>>>> Where they show Google Chrome working against Safari on a MBP- >>>>>>>> RD >>>>>>>> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (About half way down the page under "Application Support for >>>>>>>> Retina Display". >>>>>>>> I don't actually use Google Chrome myself, I use Safari, but >>>>>>>> I'm just using this as an example. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know I probably won't get an idea on this, until I've seen >>>>>>>> one of the laptops in the "flesh" and have a play with it to >>>>>>>> see how it handles it all. And then see how it compares with >>>>>>>> the standard range. >>>>>>>> (Of which if I did go for the standard MacBookPro, then I'd >>>>>>>> still get the CTO option of the Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen - >>>>>>>> as it's only $120. As that runs at a native resolution of >>>>>>>> 1680 x 1050 versus 1440x900 for the normal screen). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And yes, like you, the old "it's a brand new model, before of >>>>>>>> version1.0 things is always a bit of a concern too. I'm sure >>>>>>>> Apple test that thing to all it's limits, but sometimes just >>>>>>>> waiting to the second revision of a product lets them "iron >>>>>>>> out" any other "bugs" (or features depending how you look at >>>>>>>> it,…lol) once it's released into the wild. :o) >>>>>>>> It was like that with the PowerBook G4. The last PowerBook G4 >>>>>>>> (1.67GHz) they released was the best well built feature set >>>>>>>> laptop they made (at the time). Because by that time they had >>>>>>>> ironed out everything that was missing and improved on to get >>>>>>>> it perfect. :) (I suppose a bit like OSX 10.0 compared with >>>>>>>> others really,…lol). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway,..I'm rambling again. I don't think I can really >>>>>>>> decide/comment much further until there are some *real* real >>>>>>>> world tests, or I've actually had time to see or play with it >>>>>>>> to see what it's really like. (And it may be one of those >>>>>>>> things. Once you see it and get your hands on it, you decide >>>>>>>> any of the "issues" really aren't "issues".) Either that or >>>>>>>> I'll stay with the "standard looking" MacBookPro for this >>>>>>>> year, til the next update comes out,….lol :o) >>>>>>>> Hopefully they'll have one in the AppleStore in town to look >>>>>>>> at when I go in to get my wifes dead iPhone looked at. It's >>>>>>>> just dead. Nothing will revive it. Bit strange for an 18mth >>>>>>>> old iPhone 4. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 11:19 AM, cm wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With all that you said I still see no advantage in the old >>>>>>>>> model. Whatever you need to do, the new model will do it >>>>>>>>> (only quicker). The new Retina MBP is truly a technical >>>>>>>>> marvel. To quote again "it is the best computer Apple has >>>>>>>>> ever produced". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just the display is worth the price of entry. :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some caveats. Because it is so new, I would probably wait a >>>>>>>>> month or so to see if there are any problems with the >>>>>>>>> graphics card or the circuitry to iron out. Highly unlikely >>>>>>>>> with Apple's testing and Tim Cook wanting to appear >>>>>>>>> competent but it is still a possibility. It did occur to me >>>>>>>>> also that one may not be able to expand the new MBP as in >>>>>>>>> the case of the MacBook Air but I am not sure that will be >>>>>>>>> the case. For the MacBook Air they have that restriction in >>>>>>>>> place because of the nature of the case -- it give >>>>>>>>> advantages in strength and makes it more watertight. If that >>>>>>>>> were the case with the new Retina MBP I would be tempted to >>>>>>>>> buy the highest spec one I could afford from the get go. >>>>>>>>> True you would not be able to upgrade it, but as a trade off >>>>>>>>> the unit would be stronger -- time will tell on this point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13/06/2012, at 10:39 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, had all those points. >>>>>>>>>> Just to add to yours those. I don't "really" have to lose >>>>>>>>>> the Optical drive if I fit an SSD drive. I already have an >>>>>>>>>> SSD drive in this laptop. (I removed my 750GB 7200rpm drive >>>>>>>>>> and put in a Series6 SSD 256GB Drive. So I still get to >>>>>>>>>> keep my Optical drive and have the speed performance of the >>>>>>>>>> SSD. So I could do the same with the new one. Just swap >>>>>>>>>> over the drive.) I then get both SSD and Optical still :o) >>>>>>>>>> Yes, do have to carry run lots of cables. I was doing all >>>>>>>>>> that before anyway. Plus I always have in my pocket a >>>>>>>>>> Firewire800/400 adapter. It just clips to the end of a >>>>>>>>>> FW400 cable. So even if I have no cables, I still have the >>>>>>>>>> adapter. Plus it's lighter. Mind you my pocket carries 2 >>>>>>>>>> flash drives, that adapter and a pocket knife,…lol. >>>>>>>>>> And I already carry three external drives as well (2 >>>>>>>>>> Firewire/USB multiport drives and 1 USB bootable drive). >>>>>>>>>> They have a stack of what I need on them. So I can keep my >>>>>>>>>> SSD pretty lean anyway. I actually only run on about 100GB >>>>>>>>>> at most on the SSD. So plenty of room to work with. :o) >>>>>>>>>> I think the ports work out about the same kinda. Cause if >>>>>>>>>> you had the MBP-RD and needed to be on Ethernet, using >>>>>>>>>> Firewire then you're out of pots on the MBP-RD but you >>>>>>>>>> still have the Thunderbolt free on the "standard" MBP. :o) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The top MBP and entry level MBP-RD work out the same price >>>>>>>>>> (RRP $2499), so I was basing it on that. But yes, as you >>>>>>>>>> add more RAM and drives versus adapters, then the pricing >>>>>>>>>> changes quite a bit. So the old MBP would work out more >>>>>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But yes, there are lots of good reasons for both. It just >>>>>>>>>> comes down to what the person wants to do with it. >>>>>>>>>> It's a bit like the argument to go with a 256GB SSD versus >>>>>>>>>> the 500GB SSD. (Or flash drive). Is it with the $600 odd on >>>>>>>>>> various machines. Or can you lean out what you store on the >>>>>>>>>> machine and keep an external USB drive with you. (Or at >>>>>>>>>> home). Some will see the value that extra storage space >>>>>>>>>> will be to have it internally and $600 will be fine. Others >>>>>>>>>> will take the 256GB SSD and buy a 500GB USB drive (which is >>>>>>>>>> about $100-$150 depending on brands etc). It's perception >>>>>>>>>> of value versus useful versus budget. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That was another thing with the new MBP-RD. You can't "add" >>>>>>>>>> to it if you have. Budget restrictions mean you can buy a >>>>>>>>>> standard MBP and then down the track add in more RAM later >>>>>>>>>> (take it from 8GB to 16GB) and as pricing comes down take >>>>>>>>>> out the normal drive and add in an SSD of your choice at a >>>>>>>>>> later date. I could be wrong, but I think you have to make >>>>>>>>>> all those choices with the MBP-RD at the start as you can't >>>>>>>>>> modify it later on. I haven't looked at that point with >>>>>>>>>> detail, so as mentioned could be wrong, but was just >>>>>>>>>> something i had thought of last night after my other >>>>>>>>>> post,..lol. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Still though, I'm still un-decided on both,…lol. :o) I >>>>>>>>>> think they're both great machines, I can just see some of >>>>>>>>>> the advantages/disadvatages to both :o) And that may be the >>>>>>>>>> same for other people looking at both machines as well. >>>>>>>>>> Some will suit one person, some will suit others. That's >>>>>>>>>> the nature of the beast. >>>>>>>>>> But hey, if we had little choice and only had one, there >>>>>>>>>> would still be lots to decide! lol ;)) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 11:57 PM, cm wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The rarefied field of the computer service person is not >>>>>>>>>>> for everyone. I also operate in the field and have a kit >>>>>>>>>>> of accessories that I bring along, but I would point out >>>>>>>>>>> that the older MBP is not that far ahead even for this >>>>>>>>>>> purpose. The kit of accessories for either MBP still >>>>>>>>>>> requires that you bring an assortment of cables, thumb- >>>>>>>>>>> drive, and one or more external hard-drives. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here are some points to note. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * If weight is your concern the Retina MBP starts out life >>>>>>>>>>> a full half a kilo (one pound imperial) lighter than the >>>>>>>>>>> older MBP! >>>>>>>>>>> * The old MBP does not have that many extra ports. It has >>>>>>>>>>> one fewer thunderbolt port and it lacks the HDMI port of >>>>>>>>>>> the Retina MBP. The only extra ports are Firewire 800 and >>>>>>>>>>> ethernet. These are available to the Retina MBP via >>>>>>>>>>> thunderbolt adaptors. >>>>>>>>>>> * A big advantage of flash drives over mechanical ones is >>>>>>>>>>> that they are physically more robust and thus less prone >>>>>>>>>>> to damage by rough handling or dropping. >>>>>>>>>>> * Flash drives are, of course, much faster and boot up >>>>>>>>>>> more quickly. >>>>>>>>>>> * If, as you suggest, you fit an SSD drive in an old style >>>>>>>>>>> MBP then you lose the optical drive. >>>>>>>>>>> * Even with the Firewire 800 port you still have to >>>>>>>>>>> remember to bring along the two styles of firewire cable >>>>>>>>>>> if you want to be prepared for all contingencies. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The only real inarguable advantage of the old style MBP is >>>>>>>>>>> that they are cheaper, but as the price of flash drives >>>>>>>>>>> come down that advantage will likely evaporate too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 23:00 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It comes down to your needs I feel. As Carlo's mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>> there are good and bad to both of them. Again, it depends >>>>>>>>>>>> on your "primary" usage. And what you don't mind "losing" >>>>>>>>>>>> to "gain". >>>>>>>>>>>> Both the 15" MacBook Pro and the 15" MacBook Pro Retina >>>>>>>>>>>> Display (MBP-RD) actually have the same Graphics card >>>>>>>>>>>> pretty much. (I'm comparing both $2499 models). >>>>>>>>>>>> They both use the Intel HD Graphics 4000 and NVIDIA >>>>>>>>>>>> GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory and automatic >>>>>>>>>>>> graphics switching. So that part is the same on both >>>>>>>>>>>> models. >>>>>>>>>>>> And I would think the "standard" MacBook Pro 15" will >>>>>>>>>>>> still go to 16GB RAM as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> (I'm working on an early 2011 MacBook Pro 15" that Apple >>>>>>>>>>>> say can go to 8GB RAM,..and I'm running it with 16GB >>>>>>>>>>>> PC10600 1333MHz RAM. And it runs fine.) So I'd say people >>>>>>>>>>>> will find that can be bumped up as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The "Standard" MacBook Pro has a slightly faster >>>>>>>>>>>> processor at 2.6GHz versus 2.3GHz. But how much of a >>>>>>>>>>>> difference this is in real world speeds, would depend on >>>>>>>>>>>> the task. >>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly out of the box, I'd say the MBP-RD which has >>>>>>>>>>>> the Flash Storage built in would make data access a lot >>>>>>>>>>>> faster. Whereas it would cost $480 to add a 256MB SSD >>>>>>>>>>>> drive to the "standard" MacBookPro. So data access would >>>>>>>>>>>> be a win there. (And I'm not to sure how much of a >>>>>>>>>>>> difference Flash Storage versus SSD in "real world tests" >>>>>>>>>>>> accounts for…that and my brain is in almost sleep mode to >>>>>>>>>>>> go look it up,…lol). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And then it comes down to your connections you want to >>>>>>>>>>>> use. For some people that are moving around a lot, and >>>>>>>>>>>> depending on the field they're in, they still want "quick >>>>>>>>>>>> access" to things like Firewire, Ethernet, Optical Drive. >>>>>>>>>>>> (yes, I know this doesn't affect everyone and it comes >>>>>>>>>>>> down to their "use of the laptop", and that you can hang >>>>>>>>>>>> off adapters of the MBP-RD, but at the end of the day, >>>>>>>>>>>> it's ease of use and quick access. Do you want to carry >>>>>>>>>>>> around a Thunderbolt to Firewire800 adapter, a >>>>>>>>>>>> Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter, a Thunderbolt Optical >>>>>>>>>>>> Drive. Sure, not everyone has use for these things. But >>>>>>>>>>>> again, in some circumstances some people do. On the read >>>>>>>>>>>> of various forums a lot of mobile editors and tech >>>>>>>>>>>> support people do still want these things. They (we?) >>>>>>>>>>>> carry enough stuff around in our bag without adding to >>>>>>>>>>>> it. And if you leave it behind or it "drops off" during a >>>>>>>>>>>> transfer, you've wasted time. (And time is money as they >>>>>>>>>>>> say,…lol). "Oh sorry, I can't access your Firewire drive >>>>>>>>>>>> today, I left my Thunderbolt to Firewire800 adapter with >>>>>>>>>>>> my last client. I'll have to come back"). Again, this >>>>>>>>>>>> won't affect everyone,….I'll just trying to point out >>>>>>>>>>>> both sides of the coin. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I certainly don't think for some it will be an easy >>>>>>>>>>>> decision. I know I've looked at which model I'd like. And >>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'll need to sit down and weigh up the pros and >>>>>>>>>>>> cons of both. And what is it exactly I want out of the >>>>>>>>>>>> laptop. What features are the "must have" and what >>>>>>>>>>>> features are the "can work around or live with". Is the >>>>>>>>>>>> Retina Display going to be "huge" in the type of work I >>>>>>>>>>>> do, versus the (sometimes) need for "legacy items" in the >>>>>>>>>>>> type of work I do. (How much more weight can my back >>>>>>>>>>>> support in all the extras I have to or need to carry >>>>>>>>>>>> around,…lol). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I think they're both great machines >>>>>>>>>>>> and the new MBP-RD looks to be a great machine, and will >>>>>>>>>>>> only get better from there I'm sure. But it's what tool >>>>>>>>>>>> is the best for the job….. >>>>>>>>>>>> And one will suit some people, and not others. And vice >>>>>>>>>>>> versa. :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that info helps. That's my take or view point on it >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. ;)) >>>>>>>>>>>> And on that note, I think I'll go finish my last few >>>>>>>>>>>> emails for the night and finish my 2.5 day straight stint >>>>>>>>>>>> of work,…lol. :o) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 10:26 PM, cm wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're involved with content production with Final >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cut Pro or Photoshop or if you do software development, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the new 15" Retina Display MacBook Pro looks amazing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The stunning amount of processor power, the fast huge >>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM capacity, the enormous flash drive, and the still >>>>>>>>>>>>> long battery life given the retina display seem more >>>>>>>>>>>>> reminiscent of a server than a thin light laptop. Also >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discrete graphics card, apart from being a must for >>>>>>>>>>>>> gamers (which I am not) will provide a bank of GPU >>>>>>>>>>>>> processing power that is being utilized by more and more >>>>>>>>>>>>> apps. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with a line that I heard during the >>>>>>>>>>>>> keynote, it is the best computer that Apple has ever >>>>>>>>>>>>> produced. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: they also finally said goodbye to the primitive, >>>>>>>>>>>>> large buggy pieces of foil coated plastic known as DVDs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 21:14, Pedro <pfow...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Blitto >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The new MacBook Air will be my choice. This article may >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cultofmac.com/172812/should-you-get-the-new-macbook-pro-probably-not-heres-why/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/06/2012, at 8:47 PM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi GuysAll of you who were looking forward to the new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook pros - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please do you have an opinion as to which one you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would purchase?And >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why?tablitto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >> > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>