Thanks Ronni,

I should have explained that better. 

The Notes icon is there in icloud.com <http://icloud.com/>, and normally I see 
all my notes there too. But they have been deleted. 

I am working at trying to find a backup now that still has the notes in. I’m 
pretty frustrated  that all I can see in iTunes back up is the latest backup. 
It’s not like Time machine where we can go back to long past backups, even 
though I used to backup to iCloud, and at times to ‘my computer’.

I’m searching apple support to see if old backups are stored in Time Machine.  
Even if I could get back the backup I used last night, which contained my 
Notes, but now has been overridden by the latest backup and sync.   I let it 
sync, thinking the notes that reappeared on the iPhone would then sync with 
iCloud. Instead, they disappeared again. 

Ta

Tim




> On 5 Feb 2015, at 5:24 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> To access iCloud Notes on iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/>, go to 
> icloud.com/#notes <http://www.icloud.com/notes> and sign in using your Apple 
> ID 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=link&apdid=mme7d59d02&viewlocale=en_US&bookId=MobileMe133314>
>  (the one you use with iCloud).
> 
> If you only see Pages, Numbers, Keynote, and Settings on iCloud.com 
> <http://icloud.com/>, your account just has access to iCloud web-only 
> features. 
> 
> To gain access to iCloud Notes and other iCloud features, set up iCloud 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=link&apdid=mmfc0f1e2a&viewlocale=en_US&bookId=MobileMe133314>
>  on your iOS device or Mac.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:42 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au 
>> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni
>> 
>> My concern is that the notes were not appearing in iCloud.
>> 
>> I’ve done a restore via iTunes, and the notes appeared, but now it is 
>> syncing again and they have gone again before I had a chance to copy them 
>> somewhere. I’m going to give up for the evening and see what happens 
>> overnight. The back up was dated 15th January, which is okay for me, but 
>> it’s just being overwritten on the sync after the refresh. 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 9:43 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Are Notes still in Notes on your Mac mini?
>>> Notes are already stored in the Cloud as is - purchased music, TV shows, 
>>> Movies, apps and books, plus your contacts, calendars, reminders, email, 
>>> notes, bookmarks, & any documents handled by iCloud Drive (or documents in 
>>> the Cloud).
>>> 
>>> iCloud Backup covers the following: 
>>>          * The Photos & videos you've taken on your iOS device-located in 
>>> Camera Roll unless you've enabled iCloud Photo Library, in which case 
>>> they’re in All Photos
>>>         * Photo albums you’ve created on the iOS device (but not those 
>>> synced from your computer, because they’re already “backed up” on that 
>>> computer)
>>>        * Documents and settings for all your apps
>>>        * All account data and iOS settings (including those configured in 
>>> the Settings app, and your app and folder organisation)
>>>        * Conversations in the Messages app (iMessage, SMS, and MMS)
>>>        * Ringtones 
>>> 
>>> If you have been backing up to iCloud over Wi-Fi,  it would have backed up 
>>> a few times since you noticed this problem with Notes missing.
>>> Restore from a Backup is ONLY an "All-or-Nothing" affair: you must Restore 
>>> ALL your data from a backup-you can't restore just your notes. 
>>> And you first have to Erase All Content & Settings on your iPhone to 
>>> "Factory Fresh" before you can "Restore from iCloud Backup" (just as you do 
>>> when setting up a new iPhone).
>>>  
>>> Your Notes I feel should still be on the Server in the Cloud and be able to 
>>> download?
>>> Tim, on your iPhone: Settings > Notes > Tap Default Account - is your 
>>> @icloud.com <http://icloud.com/> ticked?
>>> 
>>> I'm hesitating whether to suggest this, but I think it is worth a try.
>>> On your iPhone  
>>> 1. Go to Settings > iCloud > Turn Notes OFF then ON
>>> 2. Then Tap the Notes App > Accounts - All Notes
>>> 
>>> See if your all your Notes Appear. It might take a few moments before they 
>>> appear.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
>>> 
>>>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 6:22 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the quick thought Ronni,
>>>> 
>>>> No. I haven't turned on iCloud Drive. 
>>>> 
>>>> What I did do a few days ago, and am sure I had used Notes since then, was 
>>>> to 'reset iCloud' from the icloud.com <http://icloud.com/> website. I was 
>>>> reassured by the 'no data will be lost' message at icloud.com 
>>>> <http://icloud.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> The back story: I use an iPhone 4 and had been trying to add an address 
>>>> into Contacts from an email I had received on the iPhone. This just wasn't 
>>>> working and no matter what I seemed to do, I couldn't seem to see the new 
>>>> persons details I made in Contacts, even though if I created or changed 
>>>> some details on the Mac Mini desktop, the iPhone Contacts app or other 
>>>> devices, they would sync through without a problem.   I thought there must 
>>>> have been something wrong with my iPhone setup, and couldn't see a way of 
>>>> logging out of iCloud or otherwise resetting it from the iPhone. So I 
>>>> reset it from the iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/> website.  That was a few 
>>>> days ago, and yesterday I now recall using Notes to retrieve some data and 
>>>> everything was there all as expected.   This morning they have all gone.
>>>> 
>>>> This morning I have created a new note and that has synced across all 
>>>> devices as expected, but still the old ones are gone. 
>>>> 
>>>> Does iCloud keep a back up I can roll back to?  or is it once it is gone 
>>>> from the iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/> website, then it's really allll  
>>>> gonnnnne.... :-{
>>>> 
>>>> Ta
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 11:48 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very quick reply as out on a job.
>>>>> You haven't accidentally turned on iCloud Drive?
>>>>> iCloud Drive only syncs Yosemite & iOS 8 devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:05 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au 
>>>>>> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use iCloud Notes to store much useful information that is then synced 
>>>>>> across my iPhone 4 (7.1.2), iPad 1 (5.1.1) and Mac Mini (10.10.2)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This morning I found all the notes stored in iCloud have disappeared. 
>>>>>> They have disappeared from each device, plus when I log into icloud.com 
>>>>>> <http://icloud.com/> on my browser. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I opened Notes in my iPad, they were initially all there, but as 
>>>>>> soon as it synced, they all disappeared.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Notes remained ticked in the Internet Account for iCloud. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there a backup in iCloud so I can retrieve these valuable notes?
>>>>>> I have backup using Time Machine and Super Duper, but I'm thinking they 
>>>>>> will not show the Notes as they are stored in iCloud.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim
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