I do not and have never used any softwares to manage my 8000+ pictures ( most 
of them hires TIFFs) .  I keep two external hard drives with all of them on and 
manipulate and use them when required for jobs.  If anything looks like 
controlling what I do it gets deleted!

Call me a Luddite, but I like to have complete control of where things are.

Bill



> On 3 Jun 2016, at 18:24, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin, I suspect the answer is no. You will still have the iPhotos 
> application resident on your Mac (Go to Finder>Applications>iPhoto) and you 
> will see it there. You can launch it and it will look at your iPhoto library 
> as it was at the time of OSX update AND conversion to Photos. Imported photos 
> SINCE the migration are not backwards-visible in iPhotos but your images as 
> they were at the time of migration are visible in both iPhoto and Photos. All 
> future Imports go to Photos library only.
> 
> Ronni may have some higher level tips but if you have Photos on your Mac, it 
> is implied the OS you have is tailored for this environment so deleting 
> Photos not a good idea.
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> petercr...@westnet.com.au <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 5:46 PM, Kevin Lock <kal...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:kal...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pete,
>> 
>> can I delete Photos and install iPhoto?
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 4:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have come to use Photos without any issues It is reliant upon awareness 
>>> of the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to Photos as if you get 
>>> that wrong you can create a headache to rectify.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why such a 
>>> fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under the hood were 
>>> needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe there are some 
>>> things I can do now that I was not previously able to do with iPhoto.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Pete.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From:
>>> wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>
>>> To:
>>> <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>>> Cc:
>>> 
>>> Sent:
>>> Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: All Contacts lost
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like iPhoto back....photos is a pile of.
>>> 
>>> Kev
>>> 
>>> On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:clamsh...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
>>> decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
>>> Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
>>> 
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
>>> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work 
>>> out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update 
>>> will actually do I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - 
>>> that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to 
>>> install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to 
>>> copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're 
>>> on loan from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in 
>>> the late nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Blasphemy! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <image.gif>
>>> 
>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au <> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Getting worse!
>>> 
>>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.
>>> 
>>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>>> Contacts are there!
>>> 
>>>  Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok Bill,
>>> 
>>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>>> 
>>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>>> 
>>> This folder needs to be restored:
>>> 
>>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>>> 
>>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
>>> and selecting
>>>           Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>>> 
>>> Enter Time Machine 
>>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
>>> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
>>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>>> 
>>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>>> contacts listed.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put 
>>> in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come 
>>> up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the 
>>> list.
>>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
>>> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
>>> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
>>> --- 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> If you are using iCloud:
>>> 
>>> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
>>> Selected.
>>> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
>>> 
>>> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
>>> 
>>> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
>>> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
>>> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>> 
>>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed 
>>> the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  All my 
>>> contacts gone.
>>> 
>>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
>>> entries.
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
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