> Joseph, so how does this help you? We've all had years of experience > fixing our own code and the code of others, and we are still learning. I > wonder if it would have been best for you to have searched the various > code respositories for an application, for example hotscripts.com. If I > understand correctly, you don't really need to learn PHP, you just need > an application that works for your particular project. The scripts > online, versus those from a book, have the advantage of being tested > online. If you limit yourself to recent releases there are fewer problems. > > Sheila
Sheila, The answer is this is very interesting to me too. Your (all of you) years of experience shine through, as I have been trying to say. What you are not seeing from my angle is the quality of the teaching that this list offers, and the depth of knowledge which is here. Though there is some truth in the idea that a script from a good source would probably meet my needs, there are two caveats. Or three. First how would I recognise such a script? Second, if I took such a script and used it would I have the faintest idea how to deal with anything that went wrong? And by that I mean even understanding what the problem was. Third, without any understanding of the code I would have no concept of its possibilities, or the possibilities it opened up. Nor of its limitations. The web is changing in many ways all the time. As with most digitally based matters there is a rapid 'democratising' as it becomes easier and easier to achieve various tasks. Gates and Windows, for all the possible criticisms, show this quite dramatically. The development of one more accessible code after another underlines this too. PHP makes for an easy entry to coding - at least in comparison to the Cs and a few others that strike me dumb. While it has taken me much longer than I hoped, I have now a basic awareness (I hesitate to say understanding) of how PHP is written and what kind of thing it can do. It is possible that fighting this book has made me do this quicker than might have been the case! I have just been looking at another 'sign-up' code and see that it approaches it with different variables as in '5 ways of doing anything in php'. While I don't really want to write my own code, I do want to fit codes together to achieve a plan or two that I have for my site; and I have to get the site going along those (hopefully, paying) lines before I will be in a position to employ those who really know how to do all the expert things so I can write poetry! Meanwhile, if you don't mind me tagging along and tugging at your coat tails from time to time, I am pleased to find myself in such sompany. And I still think there is a case for a joint book and site written by members of this list (you didn't think I'd miss a chance to mention it, did you?). Had I been allowed to do radar when I did National Service in the RAF (that dates me!) I might well have diverted into electronics and be sporting a list like the one Bj revealed. But they put me in statistics and I never looked forward. ;-) Joseph ____ • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.