"Some people are not interested in features as are only interested in
learning the system that will give them the highest chance of getting
hired. Some people are interested in features as a way to get the job
done better and quicker. I am working for this second class of users.
I am interested in building a community for these people.

Massimo"

What you are describing is a SWOT (strength, weakness, opportunity,
threats) analysis.

S:
- works with existing DB's with minimal restrictions.
- Provides WWW std outputs (RSS, XML, etc)
- DAL to abstract away DB complexity.
- GAE friendly.
- High level of customization possible.
- Appliances to do plug and play.
- Built in ticketing.
- etc.

W:
- Python powered. (Rankles me too, but Python is usually not the first
language uttered when discussing web platforms even with Django's
popularity.)
- Minimal third party tools.
- Fear of 'death by truck' for the framework.
- Development is outpacing documentation.

O:
- DAL possibly support schemeless DB's (CouchDB or BerkelyDB)?
(future?)
- Ability to run in a Android environment.
- General portability of the framework.


T:
- Not in the top three in their language class as a framework.
- PHP on the low end. Django/Rails in the midrange. Java/Glassfish/
JBoss/PlOne/Zodb on the high end.

Least that is what I would report to my boss were he to ask. And
please I did this as impartial as I could. For example 'minimal third
party tools' would be valid complaint. The counter argument of course
is many tools are already built in and anything one could consider
lacking could be developed or modified from existing tools.

Were I to make one recommendation for a feature -- Make the DAL
capable of inter-operating with CouchDB. Rationale --

* CouchDB is an up and comer in the DB arena. It plays into the
BigTable and S3 space as a substitute for those that need to keep data
inhouse.
* CouchDB has a simple interface and there are tools that permit one
to integrate django to CouchDB. But it is tacked on. A seamless
interface between Web2Py and CouchDB would be a reasonable first for
any framework.
* One would garner more support from the Mozilla Foundation in the way
of recognition and public relations than one might get from Google.

Just one opinion.

JohnMc


On Jul 6, 3:13 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> I understand what you are trying to say but when you say "no one is
> using web2py" gives people the wrong impression and not the correct
> one. It is not fair to member of this community who use web2py.
>
> You should also assume that there are lots of people on this list who
> are considering web2py but have not yet made their mind about it.
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