Mike Schrag stated in the "State of the Union" thread:
<quote>
* My understanding is that JavaClient stuff is technically still
there, but there's not very good tool support for it. NetBeans
project file support for Entity Modeler would allow the combination
of Entity Modeler plus the Swing designer tools from NetBeans,
which would probably be a good platform to start from for that
(Swing builders in Eclipse I think mostly suck still?).
</quote>
If anyone outside of Apple could know what the true _current_ state
of WO is under the hood, it would be Mike - note, I'm not saying he
_does_, just than if anyone could, it would him). He also seems to
have a pretty good understanding of the tools for some reason... :)
I don't think anyone, even at Apple, knows what is _going_ to
happen to the JC libraries that haven't been depreciated. I think
that it may take hearing from the development community as to what
they use and want to determine it's future. Please don't be quiet!
Good point. We'll send some feedback and questions directly to Apple
and hope we'll not be the only ones...
I don't know if the new javaEOGenerator supports Java Client
classes or not, I haven't had a chance to look yet, but with the
tool soon-to-be open-sourced, I'm sure it can be added if there are
enough people needing it. Other than that, I don't think there's
any other WO-specific tools required for doing a Swing/SWT/etc
Client. Am I wrong?
AFAIK you're right, important are the libraries.
As far as ways to continue JC development without D2JC and Nib-
based options, please read Florijan Stamenkovic's turorial on how
to setup Swing-only UIs: "WebObjects Java Client, the 3rd way" at
http://web.mac.com/flor385/eSwamp/software/wojc_tutorial.html
Thanks, and I definitively will read it.
I know I'm planning on digging into it soon because a large portion
of my application is D2JC, which will need to be replaced.
He sent it out to a bunch of us JC people a few weeks ago, but
hasn't gotten any feedback on it yet. He is currently Internet-
challenged due to where he's living. I'll get his permission to
send it out the library. Anybody who wants it, email me off-list.
It would probably be good to make some more publicity to his page, if
he's not against that? Maybe just to start with some editing of
http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Java+Client-
Overview. Because I really tried to google out some more info about
the JC future and about the 3rd way posibilities, and what I found
was rather sad. Style "No Future" ;)
Last thing - in a review I have read, that there are at least about
50 organizations, who use Java Client. So we are not many, but
definitively not alone. Do you have some idea, how to get a bit more
of the actual JC info/people together? Maybe to share info, maybe
just do discuss the alternatives, maybe to send to Apple/WO community
a message, that there are some people using it and that it's a viable
solution?
Long live JC!
Dave
;)))
Jarda
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