Le 10-04-22 à 20:55, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
Hi Pascal,
I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the
outside community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release
WebObjects.
Why don't you make a poll/survey:
"Do you believe Apple is ever going to release WebObjects to the
public?"
The survey should instead ask if "outsiders" (that's us) have given
feedback about WO future to Apple. For example, how many of us opened
a Radard asking what's the status of WO? How many can compare WO with
other frameworks? Who in the community wants to make WO cool again?
Maybe Apple might do something if they get feedback and start seeing
some buzz instead of seeing tweets about people who blame WO for every
Apple Store/ADC problems?
I try to do my best with wocommunity.org but I can't do everything
alone, and to be honest, I think people just don't care about
expending the community (I do hope that I'm wrong).
Greetings,
Dennis.
On 2010-04-22, at 5:45 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is
still 330cm (11ft) of snow up here.
Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here!
Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I
really like the work you have done in the past. Will you be
continuing to work on WOLips while working for Apple?
With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing
that worries me is that Apple is even less likely to release
WebObjects to the public; and more likely to keep it internal
only... Come on Apple, what is this "legacy" and "not supported on
Snow Leopard" business.
We could just try to expand the community. In the last 365 days,
870 visits on wocommunity.org came from people searching on Google
for WebObjects tutorials. Sadly, we don't have any tutorials except
the one Apple did last year... A funny enough, 748 visits after
September 1th 2009, right after Snow Leopard came out and Apple
said it was not supported in SL Server! 9 350 unique page views
for the front page of wocommunity.org since September 1th 2009, so
there is some interest in WO, but sadly except the Apple tutorial
and the basic screencasts, we don't have much to offer...
In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple,
or stay with 5.4.3 forever.
With Kind Regards,
Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
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On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and
Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity
Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work
recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the
value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look
forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.
As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he
got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here,
and I applaud them for that.
For the things you guys may directly care about:
* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple
capacity
To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you
can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.
ms
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