Hey thanks Pascal

Yea I realize Xcode is not for Java, I'm not really a Java person at all. Doing 
this web-service with WO was my first real experience with Java (done C & Obj-C 
on Unix / Linux for many years though).
I must say from what I've seen the the Wonder frameworks, they are really good, 
although some of the docs are a bit sketch ;o),
I did however find the screencasts from your previous WOWODC very informative & 
helpful

PS thanks for the 'extra' tips, especially not copying in the frameworks 
yourself ;o) - I haven't used Maven (not sure what it is, but will have a look)

Rich
 
On 13/03/2012, at 11:03 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> 
> Le 2012-03-13 à 02:05, Rich a écrit :
> 
>> Thank you so much Chuck, it's now working ..... pheew
>> Your insight and direction we're spot on.
>> 
>> The problem was that  early on when I setup the project I for some reason 
>> copied the ERExtension framework into the projects App folder to make sure 
>> it used that particular version, however as you suggested It wasn't building 
>> with the project (As I'd presumed it would) - I'm not very familiar with 
>> Eclipse and find it quite awkward to work with and work out what's going on 
>> - Kinda wish I could develop WebObjects from XCode ;o)
> 
> Trust us, you don't want to develop WO apps in Xcode :-) Eclipse is not 
> perfect, but as a Java IDE, it's years ahead of Xcode.
> 
> Tips:
> 
> - Don't fix the xxxxClasspath.txt manually. If they are wrong, either it's a 
> bug in WOLips or something is not setup correctly in the project.
> - Don't deploy with the .woa that is in the "build" directory of the project. 
> This is not a full WO app, and frameworks are not bundled into the app.
> - Don't copy frameworks directly into the app, let Ant or Maven do it for you.
> 
>> It seems so simple now, but I've been pulling my hair out - I'm so relived 
>> and if there is any way I could buy you a beer (or two or three I will (Let 
>> me know).
>> 
>> I also just realized your the author of the Practical Webobjects book which 
>> will now be my next purchase
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/03/2012, at 6:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2012-03-12, at 10:12 PM, Rich wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ok, so my UNIX classpath is as follows:
>>>> 
>>>>> # JVM              == java
>>>>> # JVMOptions       == 
>>>>> # JDB              == jdb
>>>>> # JDBOptions       == 
>>>>> # ApplicationClass == jaboo.proto.websvc.Application
>>>>> 
>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/
>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/_jabooprotowebsvc.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-codec-1.3.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/mysql-connector-java-5.1.13-bin.jar
>>>>> 
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/Resources/Java/javaeoaccess.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOAccess.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/Resources/Java/javaeocontrol.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOControl.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/Resources/Java/javafoundation.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaFoundation.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/Resources/Java/javajdbcadaptor.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaJDBCAdaptor.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/Java/javawebobjects.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaWebObjects.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/Resources/Java/javaxml.jar
>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/WebServerResources/Java/javaxml.jar
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, yes it is ERExtensions.framework (with and 's')
>>>> BUT, there is no ERExtensions.jar file under the Resources/Java/ - No JAR 
>>>> file in under here at all (Just done a search)
>>>> Just two further directories com & er with more files and sub-directories 
>>>> under them.
>>> 
>>> I _think_ that might mean that you don't have the Wonder frameworks 
>>> installed (e.g. the built .framework versions, not the source projects).  
>>> See the bottom of 
>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Getting+the+Wonder+Source+Code  
>>> and the installation instructions here:
>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Building+and+Installing+a+Framework+with+Ant
>>> 
>>> Do that on  your dev machine and rebuild the deployment bundle.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Resources folder has lots of files with .wo extensions though
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:59 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:50 PM, Rich wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mmm, OK I've rebuilt and my Unix classPath is showing all APPROOT/xxx 
>>>>>> for the frameworks, however it DOESN"T have an entry for the 
>>>>>> ERXExtension framework in there - Should it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd hope so, that is where the ERXContext* classes live!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've defiantly got an ERXExtension.framework folder in my 
>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks folder
>>>>> 
>>>>> EXExtensions with an S on the end, right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is under that?  Is there a Resources/Java/ERXExtensions.jar file?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just finishing fixing up the permissions and about to try and run it up 
>>>>>> again to see what happens
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is hoping...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:24 PM, Rich wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK, I'll give that a try now, I didn't have all the check ticked.
>>>>>>>> Also my Unix ClassPath (from you previous message) was showing a mix 
>>>>>>>> of locations for the frameworks, so hopefully this will sort that out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The ERExtensions one is the most critical right now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I meant all of the ones that your app is using, including the 
>>>>>>>>> WebObjects frameworks that it is using.  The goal is one self 
>>>>>>>>> contained directory.  There are not transitive dependancies between 
>>>>>>>>> frameworks so if a framework is NOT included in your application 
>>>>>>>>> project, then you don't need it.  This should take care of it 
>>>>>>>>> automatically:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-9.pdf>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:15 PM, Rich wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> When you say "Embed the Framework (All of them)" you mean only the 
>>>>>>>>>> ones relevant to my App right? - or do you mean ALL of the Wonder 
>>>>>>>>>> frameworks
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 4:48 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2012-03-12 à 23:29, Chuck Hill a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rich,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 8:09 PM, Rich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first post to this list, so apologies if my protocol 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not correct, or I miss something.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not much of a worry about that around here, we don't bite.  This 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is not your average place on the Internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been pulling my hair out for nearly a week now as I can't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my WO application running on my Linux server.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deployment is almost always a source of frustration and anguish.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are not alone. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a Noobie to WebObjects (1st project), and developed a back 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> end web-service for an iPhone / iPad application prototype 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project I was contracted to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The project is at the point of completion, and I've been trying 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make the WO application (Which runs just fine in Eclipse), 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on the deployment server so I can hand it over (The Linux 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine is running in VMWare).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I have followed (several times), the 'Setup' and 'Deployment' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Deploying+on+Linux and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that I have everything deployed OK (Application and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frameworks).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will gently suggest that this is your first and root problem.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Embedding the frameworks (all of them!) in the Application can 
>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid so very many headaches.  And who likes a painful deployment?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 !
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I start up the WO application instance from the Java Monitor 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems to launch OK - The application log seems to have no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues and states the URL and "Waiting for requests...", it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just when I make a request (GET) just using a browser, I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get any response data - No error at all in the browser, just an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> empty / blank page - I know I should be getting some data back as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's data to serve for the request.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be getting something back, even if just a short error 
>>>>>>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The WO application is a fairly simple and has been based upon the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERRestRouteExample included with the ProjectWonder sources, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I said I know the application runs just fine if launched form 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse (with the Eclipse http engine).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a suspicion it's something in my Apache setup, but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't for the life of me think / see what it is - I'm not even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use I need Apache as I don't need to serve any HTTP pages, just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JSON response data (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not your Apache config.  For a small site you don't strictly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> need Apache.  But when you get larger and want to run multiple 
>>>>>>>>>>>> instances of your application to scale up, then you want Apache 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (or something that helps to distribute the load, Apache is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the easy, cheap option here).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know requests are getting through to the Linux server (checked 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with tcpdump), and I can see the request in the WO application 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> log with the following error, which I can't see to find anywhere 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the net.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2012-3-13 2:40:43 GMT+00:00] <WorkerThread14> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.InstantiationError: <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to create ERXWOContext54
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that means (and yeah, it is freaking obscure) that the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Wonder that is on your dev machine is much older than 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what is on the server.  Check the size/date of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/erextensions.jar
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also check your app for code like:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> setContextClassName("ERXWOContext54");
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.createContextForRequest(WOApplication.java:2039)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.createContextForRequest(ERXApplication.java:2083)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.handleActionRequestError(ERXApplication.java:1735)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler._handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:245)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:158)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.java:126)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.dispatchRequest(WOApplication.java:1687)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequestImmediately(ERXApplication.java:2021)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequest(ERXApplication.java:1986)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.runOnce(WOWorkerThread.java:144)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.run(WOWorkerThread.java:226)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mar 13 02:40:43 Jaboo[2002] WARN  NSLog  - <WOWorkerThread id=14 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socket=null> Workerthread exiting due to error, respawning with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ID 10014...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "WorkerThread14" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [java.lang.InstantiationError] <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to create ERXWOContext54:java.lang.InstantiationError: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create ERXWOContext54
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've bypassed Apache and wotaskd and am just doing a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectConnection (which I've enabled) to the application
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate any help of guidance on how to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot further.. as I'm about to lose what little hair I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got left - my time is running out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmest regards and a big hug to anyone who can help (please..)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> specific problems.    
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>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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