We have quite a few WebObjects community folk 'down under' - Quinton Dolan, Matthew Ness, Paul Hoadley, Lachlan Deck, Andrew Lindsay ... to name a few - we even have one very outspoken guy from this side of the globe who moved to Borneo last year - David Avendasora - there is even a possibility that WOWODC 2013 might even be 'down under' if David A. follows though on his promises ;-)
Cheers, Kieran PS. We have many Davids in the community, so at least the first letter of the last name is needed to properly qualify, otherwise you get a EOUtilities.MoreThanOneException. PPS. There is a high probability that David A. could drink that beer on behalf of Chuck if he does indeed organize a WOWODC-Down-Under - and it would probably not be his first time drinking Chuck's beer either :-P On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Rich wrote: > > I'd really love to come to Montreal for WOWODC 12, but it's a long way from > New Zealand where I live and it's been a pretty tough year for us (we got > caught up in the big earthquake in Christchurch which has set us back > financially), so unfortunately it's not likely this year, but maybe joining > the WOCommunity is an idea as I'll defiantly be looking at using WO for other > stuff in the future. > > Not sure how to get you that beer (or two) from here, but if you have any > suggestions (or fancy a trip to NZ) let me know - Otherwise maybe WOWODC 2013 > > Take care, and I really appreciate your help > Rich > > On 13/03/2012, at 7:23 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >> >> On 2012-03-12, at 11:05 PM, Rich wrote: >> >>> Thank you so much Chuck, it's now working ..... pheew >> >> Excellent! >> >> >>> Your insight and direction we're spot on. >>> >>> The problem was that early on when I setup the project I for some reason >>> copied the ERExtension framework into the projects App folder to make sure >>> it used that particular version, >> >> Ah.... that explains it. >> >> >>> however as you suggested It wasn't building with the project (As I'd >>> presumed it would) - I'm not very familiar with Eclipse and find it quite >>> awkward to work with and work out what's going on - Kinda wish I could >>> develop WebObjects from XCode ;o) >> >> Been there, done that, did not like it. :-) Though I will admit that there >> are a LOT of variations to how you can set things up in Eclipse and that can >> make deployment a confusing time. >> >> >>> It seems so simple now, but I've been pulling my hair out - I'm so relived >>> and if there is any way I could buy you a beer (or two or three I will (Let >>> me know). >> >> I will suggest that you come to WOWODC this year, >> http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc12/ >> You can buy my a beer if you want to (I will drink it!) but even better you >> can learn a ton and meet some really talented developers. A lot of us also >> do iOS so you can also learn how others use that with WO and make some great >> contacts and friends. And Montreal is an awesome city! >> >> >>> I also just realized your the author of the Practical Webobjects book which >>> will now be my next purchase >> >> Some things are a bit out of date (tools), but I hope you will find it >> useful. >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >> >>> On 13/03/2012, at 6:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-03-12, at 10:12 PM, Rich wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok, so my UNIX classpath is as follows: >>>>> >>>>>> # JVM == java >>>>>> # JVMOptions == >>>>>> # JDB == jdb >>>>>> # JDBOptions == >>>>>> # ApplicationClass == jaboo.proto.websvc.Application >>>>>> >>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/ >>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/_jabooprotowebsvc.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-codec-1.3.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/mysql-connector-java-5.1.13-bin.jar >>>>>> >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/Resources/Java/javaeoaccess.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOAccess.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/Resources/Java/javaeocontrol.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOControl.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/Resources/Java/javafoundation.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaFoundation.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/Resources/Java/javajdbcadaptor.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaJDBCAdaptor.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/Java/javawebobjects.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaWebObjects.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/Resources/Java/javaxml.jar >>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/WebServerResources/Java/javaxml.jar >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, yes it is ERExtensions.framework (with and 's') >>>>> BUT, there is no ERExtensions.jar file under the Resources/Java/ - No JAR >>>>> file in under here at all (Just done a search) >>>>> Just two further directories com & er with more files and sub-directories >>>>> under them. >>>> >>>> I _think_ that might mean that you don't have the Wonder frameworks >>>> installed (e.g. the built .framework versions, not the source projects). >>>> See the bottom of >>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Getting+the+Wonder+Source+Code >>>> and the installation instructions here: >>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Building+and+Installing+a+Framework+with+Ant >>>> >>>> Do that on your dev machine and rebuild the deployment bundle. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Resources folder has lots of files with .wo extensions though >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:59 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:50 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mmm, OK I've rebuilt and my Unix classPath is showing all APPROOT/xxx >>>>>>> for the frameworks, however it DOESN"T have an entry for the >>>>>>> ERXExtension framework in there - Should it? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd hope so, that is where the ERXContext* classes live! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've defiantly got an ERXExtension.framework folder in my >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks folder >>>>>> >>>>>> EXExtensions with an S on the end, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What is under that? Is there a Resources/Java/ERXExtensions.jar file? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just finishing fixing up the permissions and about to try and run it up >>>>>>> again to see what happens >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is hoping... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:24 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK, I'll give that a try now, I didn't have all the check ticked. >>>>>>>>> Also my Unix ClassPath (from you previous message) was showing a mix >>>>>>>>> of locations for the frameworks, so hopefully this will sort that out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The ERExtensions one is the most critical right now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I meant all of the ones that your app is using, including the >>>>>>>>>> WebObjects frameworks that it is using. The goal is one self >>>>>>>>>> contained directory. There are not transitive dependancies between >>>>>>>>>> frameworks so if a framework is NOT included in your application >>>>>>>>>> project, then you don't need it. This should take care of it >>>>>>>>>> automatically: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-9.pdf> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:15 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When you say "Embed the Framework (All of them)" you mean only the >>>>>>>>>>> ones relevant to my App right? - or do you mean ALL of the Wonder >>>>>>>>>>> frameworks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 4:48 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2012-03-12 à 23:29, Chuck Hill a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 8:09 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first post to this list, so apologies if my protocol >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not correct, or I miss something. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not much of a worry about that around here, we don't bite. This >>>>>>>>>>>>> is not your average place on the Internet. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been pulling my hair out for nearly a week now as I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my WO application running on my Linux server. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Deployment is almost always a source of frustration and anguish. >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are not alone. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a Noobie to WebObjects (1st project), and developed a back >>>>>>>>>>>>>> end web-service for an iPhone / iPad application prototype >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project I was contracted to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The project is at the point of completion, and I've been trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make the WO application (Which runs just fine in Eclipse), >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on the deployment server so I can hand it over (The Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine is running in VMWare). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I have followed (several times), the 'Setup' and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Deployment' instructions on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Deploying+on+Linux and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that I have everything deployed OK (Application and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> frameworks). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will gently suggest that this is your first and root problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Embedding the frameworks (all of them!) in the Application can >>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid so very many headaches. And who likes a painful deployment? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I start up the WO application instance from the Java >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monitor it seems to launch OK - The application log seems to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no issues and states the URL and "Waiting for requests...", >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just when I make a request (GET) just using a browser, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get any response data - No error at all in the browser, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just an empty / blank page - I know I should be getting some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data back as there's data to serve for the request. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be getting something back, even if just a short error >>>>>>>>>>>>> message. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The WO application is a fairly simple and has been based upon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ERRestRouteExample included with the ProjectWonder sources, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but as I said I know the application runs just fine if launched >>>>>>>>>>>>>> form Eclipse (with the Eclipse http engine). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a suspicion it's something in my Apache setup, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't for the life of me think / see what it is - I'm not even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use I need Apache as I don't need to serve any HTTP pages, just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JSON response data (Please correct me if I'm wrong) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not your Apache config. For a small site you don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> strictly need Apache. But when you get larger and want to run >>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of your application to scale up, then you want >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache (or something that helps to distribute the load, Apache is >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the easy, cheap option here). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know requests are getting through to the Linux server (checked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with tcpdump), and I can see the request in the WO application >>>>>>>>>>>>>> log with the following error, which I can't see to find anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the net. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2012-3-13 2:40:43 GMT+00:00] <WorkerThread14> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.InstantiationError: <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to create ERXWOContext54 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that means (and yeah, it is freaking obscure) that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Wonder that is on your dev machine is much older than >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is on the server. Check the size/date of >>>>>>>>>>>>> ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/erextensions.jar >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also check your app for code like: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> setContextClassName("ERXWOContext54"); >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.createContextForRequest(WOApplication.java:2039) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.createContextForRequest(ERXApplication.java:2083) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.handleActionRequestError(ERXApplication.java:1735) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler._handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:245) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:158) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.java:126) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.dispatchRequest(WOApplication.java:1687) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequestImmediately(ERXApplication.java:2021) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequest(ERXApplication.java:1986) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.runOnce(WOWorkerThread.java:144) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.run(WOWorkerThread.java:226) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mar 13 02:40:43 Jaboo[2002] WARN NSLog - <WOWorkerThread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> id=14 socket=null> Workerthread exiting due to error, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respawning with ID 10014... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "WorkerThread14" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [java.lang.InstantiationError] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54:java.lang.InstantiationError: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've bypassed Apache and wotaskd and am just doing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectConnection (which I've enabled) to the application >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate any help of guidance on how to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot further.. as I'm about to lose what little hair >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got left - my time is running out >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmest regards and a big hug to anyone who can help (please..) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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