Hi David,

Am 08.02.2013 um 03:48 schrieb David LeBer <[email protected]>:

> On 2013-02-07, at 10:44 AM, Johann Werner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 07.02.2013 um 16:12 schrieb James Cicenia <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> I concur... a strong integration of WO with CoreData and Syncing, would be 
>>> a really nice marketing hook too. Which could translate into more members!
>>> 
>>> And yes, jQuery does have the momentum in the AJAX world.
>> 
>> I see jQuery as an important option for Wonder though I am not sure if its 
>> the best way to have a separate AjaxPrototype, AjaxJQuery, AjaxMooTools, … 
>> framework which would make maintenance a nightmare if you want to keep those 
>> feature equal. If I remember correctly long time ago the idea to make some 
>> sort of Javascript API wrapper was already discussed / proposed on the list 
>> to have only one single Ajax framework and being able choose if you want to 
>> use prototype, jQuery or any other supported JS library.
>> I already played with the thought to do some test code in that direction 
>> though had not enough time yet. What do you think, is that something the we 
>> should realize or does the community want a complete jQuery replacement of 
>> the prototype framework?
> 
> Unfortunately there are impedance mismatches between Prototype/Scriptaculous 
> and JQuery (and I'm sure the other libraries) that makes it nearly impossible 
> (or at least highly undesirable) to make them drop in replaceable for one 
> another - or API identical for that matter. 

so you would suggest to follow the route of a "new" ajax framework that would 
replace the old one?

> 
> I have a bunch of JQuery stuff that is implemented in a fairly unobtrusive JS 
> way. But I keep discovering stuff that necessitates me going back and 
> re-writing bunches of it.
> 
> My plan has always been to contribute the bones once it is done. But getting 
> there is proving difficult.

Looking forward to it :)

> 
> D
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> the future is mobile.
>>>> 
>>>> getting a complete ERSync <---> iOS app with clearly readable 
>>>> demonstration code is an essential part of the future as it relates to 
>>>> mobile or other clients.
>>>> 
>>>> I will certainly work with anyone to get to that point for all of us.
>>>> 
>>>> JQuery, and continued AJAX and modern UI for the web is also a top 
>>>> priority it seems to me, however I can't offer much help there outside of 
>>>> cheering for those who can.
>>>> 
>>>> here's to a WO 2013 everybody!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Markus Ruggiero <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 07.02.2013, at 13:59, Pascal Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Based on the feedback we have so far in the surveys (if you haven't 
>>>>>> answered the 2013 surveys, please do it in the next 7 days), we 
>>>>>> established a list of goals for 2013:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - We need a jQuery framework. According to the surveys, members of the 
>>>>>> community use jQuery almost as much as the Ajax framework from Wonder. 
>>>>>> In fact, I'm wondering how you use it now, in Direct Actions? Just for 
>>>>>> effects? If you already have a jQuery framework that you would like to 
>>>>>> give to the community, we can work it out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Better integration between WO and iOS (and Android). ERSync is a 
>>>>>> start, and I was thinking maybe we could make a tool that reads a 
>>>>>> CoreData model, convert it to a EOModel and automatically build REST 
>>>>>> services for the model. 
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - A "Project Wonder Cookbook". That book would contains, two pages max, 
>>>>>> solutions to common problems and questions about Project Wonder.
>>>>> +10
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Getting more people to understand and work on WOLips.
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - A easy-to-install development environment, that would install not only 
>>>>>> WOLips and Eclipse, but also the core WO frameworks and Project Wonder.
>>>>> +10
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - A easy to use deployment service. Having helped many people with 
>>>>>> deployment issues, it looks like deployment is still an issue. 
>>>>> +1 Ken Ishimoto's script might be a start
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Redesign of wocommunity.org. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Looking at how we can replace parts of WO with open source parts. The 
>>>>>> Cayenne training day at WOWODC 2013 is the first step toward that goal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How are we going to finance this? We will change how the membership 
>>>>>> works. We will have the following options:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - $50 for regular membership. This $50 will be for paying recurrent 
>>>>>> charges, like the hosting fees for wocommunity.org, and to pay for 
>>>>>> deposits related to WOWODC. You still get early access to WOWODC 
>>>>>> recordings.
>>>>> I'll certainly buy a regular membership
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - $300 for Bronze Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on 
>>>>>> wocommunity.org for 6 months (on rotation with other sponsors).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - $750 for Silver Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on 
>>>>>> wocommunity.org for 12 months (on rotation with other sponsors) and your 
>>>>>> logo on the WOWODC site.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - $1500 for Gold Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on 
>>>>>> wocommunity.org for 12 months (no rotation) and your logo on the WOWODC 
>>>>>> site. You also get one WOWODC 2013 ticket.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For bigger tasks, like the jQuery framework and the Project Wonder 
>>>>>> Cookbook, we will use Kickstarter or a similar system to raise money to 
>>>>>> do it, and if we don't raise enough cash, the project simply dies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Comments about this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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