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Jérémy

> Le 12 mai 2016 à 16:38, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> a écrit :
> 
> I feel rather bad and somewhat responsible for everything that’s going on 
> these days. I had no idea that a phonecall from Apple would result in this.
> 
> I'm still using WO actively in numerous old and new projects, and I don’t see 
> that changing anytime soon. Being an opensource nut I’ve made numerous 
> attempts at “escaping” WO, but that sweet, sweet statefulness, lovely API, 
> KVC and WOLips just keeps dragging me back in.
> 
> We need to find a way forward.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12. maí 2016, at 14:14, Michael Kondratov <mich...@aspireauctions.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pascal,
>>      There are also people like us that use WO for internal projects. I have 
>> not been able to find any other platform that would warrant a move. It was 
>> pretty clear to me that Apple discontinued WO good 15 years ago. Is it 
>> really possible that only 50 people or so in the world that still use 
>> WebObjects? Is there something that is better? (Or 99.999999..% use inferior 
>> tools?)
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2016, at 6:31 AM, Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It seems the majority wants to keep the WOCommunity server alive until 
>>> WOWODC, so let's do that.
>>> 
>>> Now, the reasons of why I wanted to shutdown everything:
>>> 
>>> - The results of the surveys are not positive. Only 57% of respondents use 
>>> WO for new and current projects, 32% only for maintenance, the rest is 
>>> moving away or already done so.
>>> 
>>> - Based on this, I expect to lose 10-12 WOWODC guests, so I calculated that 
>>> we needed 45 guests and made the arrangements based on that number. Sadly, 
>>> we are only 33 so far, and usually at that timeframe, we only get 4-5 
>>> registrations. Hence the 6200$ deficit (now reduced to about 2100$).
>>> 
>>> - Contributions to Wonder is next to nothing for the last year.
>>> 
>>> - I was thinking that having a session about using Cayenne with WO would be 
>>> a great way to modernize WO, and hence generate interest, and looks like I 
>>> was wrong, or else we would have more people at WOWODC, not less.
>>> 
>>> - At WOWODC 2014, we asked if people were using the master branch of 
>>> Wonder, and the vast majority said they are using their own fork. So why 
>>> should we keep Jenkins if most of you use their own forks?
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