I don't know what is more painful: bus of php. On a serious note, we use WO for 
all of our new projects. It is the most efficient platform.

Michael

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> On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> Just answering the initial question re: a place where we can register. I 
> believe there is a WO LinkedIn group? I’m pretty sure it is part of my 
> network. Maybe that would be a way to demonstrate an able community.
> 
> David’s points are valid as well.
> 
> Tim
> UCLA GSE&IS
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:45 PM, David Black <dbl...@db3.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I was a WO Sr. Consulting Engineer with Apple until 2005 and miss working in 
>> WO a lot! I just set up a dev environment to work on a new personal project 
>> to get my head back into it. As someone whose had to manage the development 
>> of new products, it's probably a mistake business-wise to choose such a 
>> deprecated platform with such a small knowledge-base. Even getting the 
>> environment spun up with WOLips and WOnder has required deciphering outdated 
>> resources. As WO was already a hard platform to learn (conceptually), it's 
>> difficulty is now compounded by tools that aren't as slick as a 
>> ProjectBuilder/EOModeler/WOBuilder. So while there's a still a small 
>> community of people who could support a WO app, the availability of an 
>> engineer(s) might be challenging, and trying to train new support engineers 
>> would be painful. This is why the businesses with whom I've been working 
>> have chosen popular (or more simple script-based) backends like RoR, PHP, 
>> Python, or more mainstream Java frameworks. Trust me...I'd LOVE to have a 
>> few companies use WO, and if this was a merit-based competition, WO would be 
>> a great choice. Your point about getting hit by a bus is valid. A bus could 
>> mow down the entire PHP staff at a company and they'd be back in business 
>> the next day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Robert Hanviriyapunt <roberth...@mac.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am a total WebObjects fan (a serious fanatic)!  And I have the chance to 
>>> suggest to a new potential client to have me rework the entire A$P/M$$QL 
>>> system in WebObjects.  My worries are that should I get run over by a bus, 
>>> whom may I get him in contact with to take over and/or support the system.  
>>> Anybody still out there?  I'm building  list to give him confidence there 
>>> will be available support.  Is there a nice place all us WebO developers 
>>> can register?
>>> 
>>> = Robert =
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