On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Martin Man wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Boutilier wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Martin Man wrote: >>> Hi Website, >>> >>> We recently noticed that our osdevcon-announce[1] and >>> osdevcon-discuss[2] mailinglists are not listed under the OpenSolaris >>> Discussion page[3]. >>> >>> Can anybody make the change for us and publish them there? >> >> Hi Martin, >> >> The contents of the os/discussons is a Jive thing and is auto-generated >> (not hand-editable), and it only puts Jive forums there. > > understand... > >> So in order to be comprehensive, a while back, we changed the main left >> sidebar link called "Discussions" to "Jive Forums", and above that >> created an additional link called "Mail Lists". The latter is >> all-inclusive (and thereford includes the OSDevCon lists), the former >> is a subset. > > To be frank I really haven't looked at the left menu, and I strongly > believe that although this probably works it's not optimal at all. I > thought either all mailing lists should have a forum, or none of them > should have a forum, or at least forums should not have the same names > as the mailing lists. This is just confusing even to geeks like me (the > geeks who understands what's underneath) and I can't imagine how > confusing it must be for plain users. Think Usable(tm). > >> Hope that's OK. I.e. also see: >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/website-discuss/2007-August/003779.html > > based on that mail I don't see a point why to keep the jive forums > around.
Phasing out the Jive forums actually is already in the longterm plan, but not the near-term plan, per the OGB survey done several months ago... See: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=26256&tstart=30 Here's the raw survey results: http://poll.opensolaris.org/1/ > It seems that: > > 1) none wants to maintain/improve them > 2) they are not there for all lists and probably never will > 3) postings from the forum regularly break the email threads > > do we at least know the numbers of posters per month that use forums > instead of mailing lists so that we have some numbers at hand for > keeping them alive? Somewhat. Click on the link above, and scroll to a post I made that starts with: "Just to provide some more context, here's some Jive usage data..." Eric > thanx for your explanation, looking forward for your opinions, > Martin > > -- > http://martinman.net > _______________________________________________ > website-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ website-discuss mailing list [email protected]
