On Mon 20 Aug 2007 at 04:03PM, Martin Man wrote:
> am I missing something or am I the only one who wants to have a nice,
> clean and usable webpage for opensolaris?
>
> What additional value do the jive forums bring right now when compared
> to pure mailman?
>
> thanx for your opinions,
Two comments and some URLs to take a look at. Please interpret my
comments as requirements, and not as a defense of Jive.
First, someone mentioned search at some point, and you responded with
(roughly speaking) "use google." I do not believe that to be
sufficient unless we do a site-specific google search; and even
then, you've tossed out a lot of the useful things in the Jive search.
The jive search lets me locate specific posts on specific lists. I've
found the search to be quite useful on numerous occasions when I
want to find some post from weeks or months earlier.
Second, Jive provides RSS feeds of all lists. For example, the RSS feed
of "announcements" linked on the home page of the site is actually this
URL:
http://opensolaris.org/jive/rss/rssmessages.jspa?forumID=76
I have this bookmarked in my feed reader. So, I would call RSS feeds
for all lists and proper search hard requirements for whatever replaces
jive.
Finally, on a personal note, I really really HATE when I google
search for something and I land in a mailman archive. The default
mailman navigation is really really really bad; so if all you give
me is mailman, I'm going to be really annoyed.
It's possible that something like Apache mod_mbox would be sufficient;
I don't know since I've not studied it in depth; I think it would make
sense to ask other free software communities for advice. One page I
found interesting was here:
http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html
Which lists various ways to consume forums, including mod_mbox,
gmane and nabble. Perhaps your plan should consider outsourcing the
search/RSS/reading, and let the mailman web UI simply be the archived
mailbox provider.
Of course, none of this solves the I-want-to-post-from-the-web problem.
-dp
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