I would also recommend keeping the templates separate, I generally user
servlets and have them call my templates and display their output.  If
the cheetah pages were accessed directly  (like psp pages) then I would
be loosing alot of the functionality of the template.
Jose

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Webware-discuss] Experience to share: using WebWare,
> DocumentTemplate , HTMLGrid
> From: "Ian Bicking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, December 29, 2004 10:41 am
> To: "Winston WOLFF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "<webware-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
> <webware-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
> <webware-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
> <webware-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>"
> <webware-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
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> Winston WOLFF wrote:
> > Thanks for the perspective. Like you, I found Webware after examining
> > Zope, and I found Zope too overwhelming. I wanted something simpler and
> > smaller.
> >
> > Regarding DocumentTemplate, that's an interesting alternative. I'll have
> > to look into that. I've been switching a lot between Cheetah and PSP and
> > I'm not satisfied with either. Cheetah almost works for me, but I keep
> > running into one problem--I can't run callMethodOfServlet() on it. It
> > does some tricky things to inherit from Servlet and messes us things
> > inside the transaction object which causes a failure.
>
> I'd recommend not using Cheetah templates as servlets -- it's better to
> have the template separate, and have the servlet call the template.
>
> I'd also discourage using DocumentTemplate -- it's really a dead-end,
> and is being actively replaced by Zope Page Templates in Zope.
> Personally I've grown to hate DTML in the Zope context; I'd never
> actually realized you could use them outside of Zope, but then I've
> never had any desire.  And though DTML is faster than ZPT, it's likely
> to be slower than Cheetah or PSP (which are compiled to Python, where
> DTML is interpreted).  ZPT is definitely slower than them all.
>
> ZPT is also available separate from Zope, and I've used them a great
> deal with Webware, quite successfully I think.
>
> --
> Ian Bicking  /  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /  http://blog.ianbicking.org
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