On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 05:41:37PM +0100, jeremy rosen wrote: > > This is an interesting alternative. But after reading Boucman's comments I > > guess it's not the right direction either, since there would be a drive to > > replace it with C++ or lua sooner or later. > > Maybe a better idea would be to make an Android app that allows connecting > > to the Wesnoth server but only for watching games (and chatting when doing > > so). The good thing about such an app is that it could actually become > > massively popular, because of its cool graphical nature and general appeal. > > Which means it would get more people motivated to finish the port so they > > can play instead of just watching. An AI bot on the other hand is mainly > > interesting for AI programmers. > > at that point you would have rewritten wesnoth in java with no common > code, getting the two to be compatible at WML level would be hell, and > any change in the game would need to be coded twice, which means > doubling the work or doubling the number of devs, half of them doing > the boring task of rewriting what the first half did in another > language. That won't work. People will get bored, the java port will > lag behind, and quickly won't be compatible with the c++ port
I agree with that. I also think the Java porters will get bored soon since Wesnoth uses several C++ features not in Java like multiple inheritance and templates. (Disclaimer I'm no Java expert and I heard the Java generics aren't as powerful as the C++ templates.) I remember somebody working on a Python port who wasn't happy with the multiple inheritance code since Python doesn't support that. > > And making a basic UI with tools available on Android. > > > > Those are big chunks, but maybe without the GUI, advanced WML stuff, AI, > > etc., this could still be a manageable project. You tell me... > > > my guess would be no.. that would not be manageable > > However this does not mean we must drop Android altogether... Despite > what Google says it seems that it's quite feasible to do a C++ only > port, with a few c++ <=> java specific plugs. SDL has been ported to > android and there are a few game that use it for display. The only > other thing we need is access to the input and the network, and maybe > a few phone specific entries (to let the phone take precedence on > incoming calls) Typing "android c++" in your favourite search engine gives several links. So it seems C++ can be used with the Android. > My guess is c++ is the only way to go for android, but I have to admit > I didn't study very far yet I agree (include the study part). -- Regards, Mark de Wever aka Mordante/SkeletonCrew _______________________________________________ Wesnoth-dev mailing list Wesnoth-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev
