Allow me to propose something different: Wikipedia needs better writing, not technical solutions. And for different target groups, we need different encyclopedias: * for children * for people with disabilities, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leichte_Sprache * for scholars, e.g. "Wikipedia scholar". A different wiki for every target group can be arranged in the best possible way for the target group.
Kind regards Ziko Am Sa., 9. Feb. 2019 um 21:55 Uhr schrieb Aaron Gray < aaronngray.li...@gmail.com>: > I am thinking maybe we could use subdomains for layperson, and for schools, > and maybe universities to have specialized [approved] content also ? Just > an idea given this possible mechanism. > > On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 20:15, Aaron Gray <aaronngray.li...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thank you please keep suggestions and pragmatics coming in ! > > > > I looked at this problem some time ago and the extra programming for what > > I am proposing is quite minimal utilizing existing MediaWiki libraries > and > > adding extra code to support the tag structure with defaulting to make it > > seamless to existing articles. > > > > I really think this would increase the usability and audience of > > Wikipedia and also might possibly allow us to integrate content from > other > > Wikipedia projects. > > > > Regards, > > > > Aaron > > > > > > On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 07:57, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> > > wrote: > > > >> The suggestions that bring up the Simple English Wikipedia miss the fact > >> that it only covers the English language, which most people don't know, > >> and > >> doesn't do almost anything for the many other languages of the world. > (I'm > >> saying "almost anything" because I know that there are people who prefer > >> to > >> translate articles from the Simple English Wikipedia, and this > indirectly > >> benefits other languages.) > >> > >> One thing about how Wikipedia works that practically no-one ever > >> challenges > >> is that every page title is associated with a page, and the page is > always > >> a single big blob of sections, section headings, templates and magic > >> words. > >> > >> What if it was not a single blob? > >> > >> What if all the magic words, such as NOTOC, DISPLAYTITLE, and > DEFAULTSORT > >> moved to a separate metadata storage? > >> > >> More closely to this thread's topic, what if at least some sections that > >> all or most pages have were stored separately, so that it would be > >> possible > >> to parse and render them semantically? The References section, for > >> example, > >> is something that many pages have. What if it could be separated from > the > >> prose blob and stored separately, so that it would be parsed > semantically > >> for different screens and contexts, such as Wikicite? Currently its > >> rendering and storage is heavily biased for desktop and wiki syntax > >> editing, and suboptimal for mobile display and editing, as well as for > >> translation. > >> > >> And most closely to the thread's original topic, what if one page could > >> have several lead sections? Sure, this can be done now with hacks such > as > >> templates and namespaces, but these are still hacks: they are not > >> semantic, > >> not portable across languages, and not easily machine-readable. > >> > >> Of course, doing all these things would require major, major changes in > >> how > >> Wikipedia's software works. Developers would have to write a lot of code > >> and editors would have to get used to new things. But sometimes it's > worth > >> thinking our of the box instead of saying "that's not how Wikipedia > >> works". > >> > >> בתאריך שבת, 9 בפבר׳ 2019, 02:16, מאת Aaron Gray < > >> aaronngray.li...@gmail.com > >> >: > >> > >> > I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you > are a > >> > kid or a layperson or an expert in a field you get a different > >> > introduction. > >> > > >> > Often the reason people don't read or use WikiPedia is articles are > too > >> > complex at the start. > >> > > >> > Having an adaptive setting that can be chosen but users as default > needs > >> > facilitating by WikiMedia technology. > >> > > >> > Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are > >> > welcomed. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Aaron > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Aaron Gray > >> > > >> > Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language > Researcher, > >> > Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist. > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wiki-research-l mailing list > >> > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >> > > > > > > -- > > Aaron Gray > > > > Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language Researcher, > > Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist. > > > > > -- > Aaron Gray > > Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language Researcher, > Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist. > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
