Thank you, Ciz.
DEFAULTSORT has changed, I think. When I previously read about it, I got the 
clear impression that a new DEFAULTSORT on a page would apply to all 
subsequently-listed categories until replaced by another DEFAULTSORT lower 
down. Not now.

So for what we want (listing by PAGENAME in the relevant surname category but - 
as is normal for sorting people - by surname in all others) it seems we should 
have the normal DEFAULTSORT right at the bottom of the page (so that it's not 
overriden by any later ones hidden in templates) and use a specific sort order 
pipe for the surname category.

Trying just now to update the notes on Template:Surname, I get an amusing error:

Error 400 Bad Request
Bad Request

Guru Meditation:
XID: 1373567348

Varnish


Best of luck with the big fix, guru!

[Mr] Robin Forlonge Patterson, 
88 Motuhara Road, Plimmerton, Porirua City 5026, New Zealand
Member of NZ Society of Genealogists since 1974
http://wc.rootsweb.com/~robinp
And see http://genealogy.wikia.com/ a free cooperative MediaWiki site

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cizaña 
  To: Central Wikia Mailing List 
  Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [Wikia-l] DEFAULTSORT not working properly


  The page has {{DEFAULTSORT:Cronman, Elisabeth}} at the bottom and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Categories#Default_sort_key says that if 
there are different default sorts it will pick the bottom one. Since it only 
says about DEFAULTSORT i took a bold step and tested < 
http://genealogy.wikia.com/index.php?title=Elisabeth_Cronman_%281630-1687%29&diff=199619&oldid=195346
 >
  and looks like it now works properly because as it says it picks the bottom 
one if various are present.

  Ciz



  On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Robin-P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    See
    
http://genealogy.wikia.com/index.php?title=Elisabeth_Cronman_%281630-1687%29&action=edit

    It is placed below the surname template and
    therefore should not affect it - but it does,
    listing Elisabeth under "C". In the surnames
    category we want people listed by first name (i.e.
    pagename).

    I mentioned it a few weeks ago on the genealogy
    mailing list. Some kind person tweaked something
    so that the other reported malfunction of
    DEFAULTSORT was fixed. But this one is still in
    effect

    [Mr] Robin Forlonge Patterson,
    88 Motuhara Road, Plimmerton, Porirua City 5026,
    New Zealand
    Member of NZ Society of Genealogists since 1974
    http://wc.rootsweb.com/~robinp
    And see http://genealogy.wikia.com/ a free
    cooperative MediaWiki site

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