Hi Gerard, I like Reasonator a lot, but there is several advantages to an integrated solution : * We can reuse technologies of the mediawiki ecosystem, like for example a very important one : templates, that are already used an that a lot of wikimedians knows. It can be used to build template articles. I don't know if reasonator atm had a lot of contributions. It needs a github or something account and Javascript knowledge. * community is reluctant to use not in wiki tools for such needs, it's politically hard to push Reasonator integration into Wikidata fundamental templates, I can tell. * A solution based on prebuilt queries to select the appropriate template seems not so hard to implement only with Wikibase concepts, and deeply integrated to the mediawiki ecosystem, integrate Reasonator will probably eventually not result into such result.
And yes, Reasonator is usable right now. So it's cool that this feature is not implemented right now :) And reasonator can follow its own path. 2014-12-30 12:28 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > Hoi, > You also forget that it HAS been in use on several Wikipedias in the past. > So when that was no problem why is it a problem that can not be overcome > now and for now? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 30 December 2014 at 12:15, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hoi, >> They are mostly excuses. The software has been in use for a LONG time. It >> is known for its relevance for the same long time.. So the value of this >> need is diminished by the lack of attention in the past. >> >> The point is that these excuses are very much in the way of us achieving >> our goal.. sharing in the sum of all knowledge. The knowledge in Wikidata >> is available knowledge to us so we do not have a valid excuse. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On 30 December 2014 at 11:38, Michał Łazowik <mlazo...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> > Wiadomość napisana przez Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >>> w dniu 30 gru 2014, o godz. 10:24: >>> > >>> > Reasonator works now. >>> >>> Yes, but the thing is that putting anything on production is not just >>> including it there. >>> The whole code needs to be reviewed and there are some limitations, >>> especially >>> with 3rd party libraries. Bootstrap is a no-go. There are code >>> conventions, performance >>> and compatibility issues (mediawiki has to support IE 8) and >>> internationalisation. And >>> tests. >>> >>> Maybe some of these things are already there, but still the review would >>> have to be >>> done. >>> >>> Michał >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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