Exactly. The "official name " property always has the name in the original script. But we can and should have the transliteration in a qualifier.
Joe On 30 Apr 2015 06:13, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > We transliterate every name from one script to the other. Transliteration > the official name is exactly the one you should not transliterate.. What is > left after transliteration is not official. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 29 April 2015 at 18:54, Thomas Douillard <thomas.douill...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It's always possible to transliterate the official name >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1448>property. Of course this >> should be done by a gadget, or we may have to find a special treatment for >> the ''name'' properties. >> >> 2015-04-28 23:06 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <filceola...@gmail.com>: >> >>> I agree up to a point. Transliteration is not appropriate for labels for >>> all items. There are however a few categories of items for which >>> transliterated labels are appropriate. For example : >>> * English labels for villages and towns >>> * English labels for people >>> *English labels for bands and albums >>> I'm sure there are others that could use this too. >>> >>> Joe >>> On 27 Apr 2015 18:09, "Leon Liesener" <leon.liese...@wikipedia.de> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The problem with ISO is that it's a standard for language-independent >>>> transliteration to Latin script. Since labels on Wikidata are >>>> language-dependent, making use of ISO does not make sense really. If >>>> you use ISO for Russian names in Cyrillic script, the label you get is >>>> not in English. It's still in Russian but transliterated to Latin >>>> script. ISO thus would only fit as an alias for the Russian interface >>>> language, if at all. >>>> >>>> 2015-04-26 22:39 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: >>>> > Hoi, >>>> > <grin> ISO is a reliable source; it is THE standard </grin> Wikipedia >>>> is >>>> > definitely not a standard by its own admission. >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > GerardM >>>> > >>>> > On 26 April 2015 at 22:37, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> On 2015-04-26 22:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hoi >>>> >>> My point is that it is not a given that we should follow any >>>> WIkipedia >>>> >>> for anything. Also the point of romanisation of Russian is not for >>>> the >>>> >>> benefit of Russian speakers, it is for the speakers of English. >>>> >>> Thanks, >>>> >>> GerardM >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> On one hand, yes. >>>> >> >>>> >> On the other hand, no reliable source uses ISO. When NYT writes >>>> about a >>>> >> Russian person, they do not use ISO, they use what the English >>>> Wikipedia >>>> >> uses or smth similar. In my passport, they do not use ISO >>>> (fortunately), why >>>> >> should then ISO be used on Wikidata in an entry about me? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Cheers >>>> >> Yaroslav >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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