Hoi,
It does not quality anything. It is plain wrong.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 30 April 2015 at 15:06, Joe Filceolaire <filceola...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly. The "official name " property always has the name in the original
> script. But we can and should have the transliteration in a qualifier.
>
> Joe
> On 30 Apr 2015 06:13, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>> We transliterate every name from one script to the other. Transliteration
>> the official name is exactly the one you should not transliterate.. What is
>> left after transliteration is not official.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 29 April 2015 at 18:54, Thomas Douillard <thomas.douill...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's always possible to transliterate the official name
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1448>property. Of course this
>>> should be done by a gadget, or we may have to find a special treatment for
>>> the ''name'' properties.
>>>
>>> 2015-04-28 23:06 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <filceola...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> I agree up to a point. Transliteration is not appropriate for labels
>>>> for all items. There are however a few categories of items for which
>>>> transliterated labels are appropriate. For example :
>>>> * English labels for villages and towns
>>>> * English labels for people
>>>> *English labels for bands and albums
>>>> I'm sure there are others that could use this too.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>> On 27 Apr 2015 18:09, "Leon Liesener" <leon.liese...@wikipedia.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The problem with ISO is that it's a standard for language-independent
>>>>> transliteration to Latin script. Since labels on Wikidata are
>>>>> language-dependent, making use of ISO does not make sense really. If
>>>>> you use ISO for Russian names in Cyrillic script, the label you get is
>>>>> not in English. It's still in Russian but transliterated to Latin
>>>>> script. ISO thus would only fit as an alias for the Russian interface
>>>>> language, if at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-04-26 22:39 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
>>>>> >:
>>>>> > Hoi,
>>>>> > <grin> ISO is a reliable source; it is THE standard </grin>
>>>>> Wikipedia is
>>>>> > definitely not a standard by its own admission.
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > GerardM
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 26 April 2015 at 22:37, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 2015-04-26 22:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hoi
>>>>> >>> My point is that it is not a given that we should follow any
>>>>> WIkipedia
>>>>> >>> for anything. Also the point of romanisation of Russian is not for
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>> benefit of Russian speakers, it is for the speakers of English.
>>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>>> >>> GerardM
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On one hand, yes.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On the other hand, no reliable source uses ISO. When NYT writes
>>>>> about a
>>>>> >> Russian person, they do not use ISO, they use what the English
>>>>> Wikipedia
>>>>> >> uses or smth similar. In my passport, they do not use ISO
>>>>> (fortunately), why
>>>>> >> should then ISO be used on Wikidata in an entry about me?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers
>>>>> >> Yaroslav
>>>>> >>
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