Thanks, Vito & All!

Scott

On Jul 31, 2016 5:05 PM, "Vi to" <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [Note: I'm using the last message for a cumulative reply]
>
> Wikidata has 16k active users, 66 admins, 3 'crats, with a pretty active
> community. This thread has turned into a weird mix of inclusionism vs.
> deletionism catfight + a request to undelete some contents in a specific
> project + a series of off-topics. The first part might fit the scope of
> this list (though is *so* boring), same for the third one. Instead, the
> second part must be discussed on Wikidata following local policies.
>
> Finally, just to clarify: undeletions by stewards are completely out of
> our mission and policies (I, for one, would rather intervene to delete ^^),
> same for the staffers. No chances to overrule a community for such trivial
> reasons.
>
> Vito
>
> 2016-08-01 0:36 GMT+02:00 Info WorldUniversity <
> i...@worlduniversityandschool.org>:
>
>> If, as Jimbo Wales' wrote the purpose of Wikipedia involves imagining "a
>> world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to
>> the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing.—Jimbo Wales
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimbo_Wales>[3]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purpose#cite_note-3>"
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purpose ...
>>
>> and the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation includes:
>>
>> "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people
>> around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free
>> license <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:free_content> or in the public
>> domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally.
>>
>> In collaboration with a network of chapters
>> <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Local_chapters>, the Foundation
>> provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework for
>> the support and development of multilingual wiki projects
>> <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Our_projects> and other endeavors
>> which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep useful
>> information from its projects available on the Internet free of charge
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:gratis>, in perpetuity."
>>
>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement
>>
>> I'd vote as a Wikidata community member for aggregating conferences and
>> courses in all languages with machine and wiki (human) processes. Whether
>> this is best done in Wikidata/Wikibase, or another related platform or
>> elsewhere, may be worth exploring process-wise in a number of different
>> Wikidata forums and discussions. This also seems wise, and relatively easy
>> too I.T.-wise, given shared unfolding agreement among Wikidatans and
>> Wikipedians.
>>
>> Friendly regards, Scott
>>
>> CC https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2016 2:18 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> There were lists of Wikimania talks for the Wikimanias. So these items
>>> were not standing alone they were in context and THAT is what makes it
>>> attractive to have them. We do have Wikimanias as items and on there own
>>> they do not provide information. Looking at them from only WIkidata you do
>>> not get the picture. Thank <enter your deity> that Magnus has his fantastic
>>> tools that allow us to show the value of data.
>>> Thanks,
>>>       GerardM
>>>
>>> On 31 July 2016 at 22:47, Stas Malyshev <smalys...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> > Ask yourself what it is about.. It is about the Wikimania talks. What
>>>> > was done is removing all the Wikimania talks without any discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder whether Wikidata is really the best platform to host Wikimania
>>>> talks and information about it. While I have no doubt these are
>>>> excellent talks of great interest to Wiki community, their notability in
>>>> the larger world is a more difficult question. Specifically, would we
>>>> create an item for every talk even for a major conference (not
>>>> considering copyright etc. questions now)? We have a lot of conferences
>>>> with much wider attendance than Wikimania happening each year.
>>>>
>>>> Now, Wikimania is of course special - for Wiki movement. And having
>>>> *some* repository for this content and knowledge would be completely
>>>> appropriate. However, is that repository Wikidata - as purported to be
>>>> repository of knowledge of general public interest? I am much less sure
>>>> of it. Unless we take the wider mission of accepting data about talks on
>>>> any conference of note - which may be possible, but I'm not sure whether
>>>> it should be done... If yes, then of course clear policy statement to
>>>> that effect may be helpful - so people who are not sure about it like me
>>>> would know what the community consensus has arrived to.
>>>> --
>>>> Stas Malyshev
>>>> smalys...@wikimedia.org
>>>>
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