Leigh and others who may be interested, Thanks for this reply. So what your saying is that Otago will give me credit for a WikiEd course that is designed around the NZQA as long as I give them money. Is it a graduate level course? Is Otago working toward being able to complete WikiEd courses and get a graduate level degree? Can I transfer this credit to another institution for my graduate level degree? It would seem to me that what Otago is doing is great, and a step in the right direction but it is still essentially using WikiEd as a LMS (or part of their LMS for I still have to complete assessment activities) and I still have to pay for the credential... Please correct me if I have misunderstood... I'd change your last statement to say "Learning and education is free, assessment and credential still costs"
Anyhow, I want to dive deeper on this topic. I want to discuss if people think it is possible to create an international accredited institution that gave me a graduate level degree based on my completion / creation of OER (and related published research)? Maybe the international institution is a social network with a top quality reputation. i.e. if your level of scholarship is recognized by this "institution / social network" then it is considered the same as a PhD from Athabasca University... lets call it Open Access Accreditation... Isn't this the natural progression from connectionist (see siemens) approaches? It would seem that an institution like UNESCO or ICDE is where this could start and with the writing coming from these institutions regarding OER they (I believe) should be addressing the issue. I've been reading papers from these institutions for a while and everything still assumes the OER are utilized within existing institutions and existing courses and existing programs and in the end you still have to pay for assessment and the credential. In particular, the roadmap from the OLCOS http://www.olcos.org/cms/upload/docs/olcos_roadmap.pdf seems to be a deep dive into all this, yet they still assume loads of affiliations and partnerships with existing Universities. Essentially you still have to pay to get assessed and credentialed even though you are using OER created by someone only loosely affiliated with the university granting the credential. Why? You could assume a PhD is the equivalent of 2-3 years of full-time work, for easy math lets 5000 hours. Let's say I am prepared to work 16 hrs a week for 46 weeks a year for seven years (5152 hours total). And during this time I create a solid amount (potentially a complete Masters degree amount) of OER (with accompanying collaborative research papers) on WikiEducator and Wikiversity. Shouldn't I be able to take all this work and be given a PhD? Universities provide honorary doctorates; why not use this same structure to offer a PhD to someone who completes what I previously suggested? Or would the reputation I created on WikiEducator and Wikiversity by collaboratively creating a PhD effort equivalent in OER be the same as having a PhD? In fact could this not be the new PhD? And in the end I would have saved myself the 40k - 100k $ that I paid to an institution for a credential (not including 5152 hrs of lost salary). And I could do all this in a truly self directed manner without having to be "supervised" by a tenured academic. When I know that most of my supervision is going to come from the social network anyway... Or maybe what I am asking is; what role does the graduate level university play in a Connectivist world filled with quality OER, hard work and an active social network? Thanks for your time, Peter On Mar 24, 2:52 am, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Internationally recognised competency standards like the ones used in Aust', > NZ and South Africa and then Recognition of Prior Learning RPL services. > > Otago Polytechnic has RPL services. Any day now we expect a person who has > done a course on Wikied that is designed around competency/assessment > standards that we recognise (NZQA) we will be able to accredit their > learning if they wish. It wouldn't be free however. > > Learning is still free, education still costs. > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What would it take to create an international accredited university > > that gave graduate level degrees based on the completion / creation of > > OER? And if this was possible, would it cost anything? > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall > +64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy Goalposthttp://learnonline.wordpress.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
