Thanks Peter, Leigh, Essentially > you still have to pay to get assessed and credentialed even though you > are using OER created by someone only loosely affiliated with the > university granting the credential. Why? > would the reputation I created on WikiEducator and Wikiversity by > collaboratively creating a PhD effort equivalent in OER be the same as > having a PhD?
> Or maybe what I am asking is; what role does the graduate level > university play in a Connectivist world filled with quality OER, hard > work and an active social network? It IS the point isn't it? I'll use Liam, who 'runs' Wikipedia Weekly as an example here. No doubt the employers of his new role at the Dictionary of Sydney were influenced by the proof that he can get stuff done. They just have to look. Most of DoS board are academics who are old enough to feel out on a limb, and thankful for the proved expertise. http://www.dictionaryofsydney.org/www/html/51-project-teams.asp Now i'm not saying this approach is going to replace ALL the old bricks and mortar credentials. But so far as the new (Interactive)media industries are concerned (and this IS the growth area in employment); how much proof do you want that their credentials are passe/irrelevant? The aim of an .edu is simply to pass on expertise isn't it? They (simply) can't. The assumption = " they still assume loads of affiliations and partnerships with existing Universities"= makes the point. If you could see the number of Memorandums of Understanding I've seen signed over the past years and the lack of anything tangible coming from them... well, "samo, samo". I'm taking it that terrya is a playmate of yours Peter, so I've said my piece on his terrific paper. http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/03/17/networks-versus-groups-in-higher-education/#comment-1433 But until we see consortia like the Open CourseWare consortia start focussing on the communications of groups that stand between their institutional members, I guess we'll just have to put up with the "Successful disaster", which they've created.. http://ochre.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/pittsburgh-fortune-cookies/#comment-1008 PS Anyone interested in hosting a wikieducator forum over at Wikback? http://wikback.com/forums/ In fact could this not be the new PhD? And in the end I > would have saved myself the 40k - 100k $ that I paid to an institution > for a credential (not including 5152 hrs of lost salary). And I could > do all this in a truly self directed manner without having to be > "supervised" by a tenured academic. When I know that most of my > supervision is going to come from the social network anyway... > > > Thanks for your time, > > Peter > > On Mar 24, 2:52 am, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Internationally recognised competency standards --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---