Hi Lodewijk, 
We in Ukraine would be interested to participate, especially because we have 
just released a journal about Wiki Loves Monuments for exactly the same 
audience - monuments professionals and volunteers - and thus we already have 
some materials ready (in Ukrainian). 
Probably the most interesting story from us would be about "making our own 
lists" - not in the meaning that we are doing original research, but in the 
meaning that Ukraine has strictly no cultural heritage register. Instead 
several hundreds of institutions maintain their own official lists, from the 
Ministry of Culture to municipalities, and they hardly communicate with each 
other. The process involved sending requests to all of them, digitising and 
converting these lists, collaborating with local historians and museums who 
sometimes had the necessary lists and even requesting the lists in the court 
when a local administration refused to provide them. As a result, we have the 
most complete monument lists that ever existed in Ukraine. 
If this story does not work, we can also write about the "WLM community" we 
have, i.e. people who travel, visit, picture and document monuments during the 
year and upload photos of 1000+ monuments in September. 
If this corresponds to what you are looking for, please tell us what do we have 
to provide. 
Thanks, Mykola (NickK) WLM Ukraine 
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Дата: 3 квітня 2016, 19:34:54 

Hi, 
the target audience would be heritage (monuments) professionals and volunteers. 
So what we would probably want to transfer, is enthusiasm for free knowledge, 
for collaborating with online movements, for sharing information. So it would 
be especially nice to share a story, I think. Not so much describing the whole 
competition, but taking out one aspect, and telling a narrative. In Italy, I 
suspect the story about how all the government institutions came together to 
work around silly legislation would be a great story. The size of Russia and 
the travelling involved might make a nice story too. I'm a little less 
convinced that the 'making our own lists' would come across well, but I don't 
know enough about that.  
Yaroslav's suggestion for taking 'we have covered everything' might work too, 
in several countries. In the Netherlands, I could imagine a story about 
collecting the municipal lists (this involved calling them all, and collecting 
and converting them one by one).  
What other stories do you know about, that we could share? 
Best, Lodewijk 
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Tsirlin < altsir...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 
My ideas about WLM in Russia would be: 

- no national register of cultural heritage (we are basically making one 
ourselves, and it's at least as good as different 'official' registers created 
over the years) 
- no freedom of panorama for sculptures (see Italy) 
- amazing traveling activity of our participants (last year we offered a 
special nomination for the maximum number of regions covered; the winner 
uploaded photos from 31 regions (out of ~85 regions in total), which is quite a 
lot considering the size of the country) 

There is likely not enough space to mention everything, but you can point me to 
the topic that will be most interesting for the European readers. 

-Alexander 

On 03.04.2016 19:14, Lodewijk wrote: 
Hi, 
OK, it seems the most interesting would be scenario 3. I have a good idea what 
the story in Italy might look like :) Alexander, what would be the story about 
Russia?  
I think a story about Austria might be nice too? Given that it is one of the 
most successful countries in terms of coverage?  
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Alexander Tsirlin < altsir...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 
Dear Lodewijk, 

I can write something about WLM in Russia, but I have to know the size limit 
and the time scale. 

Best, 
Alexander 

On 03.04.2016 13:34, Lodewijk wrote: 
Hey folks, 
it may be possible to publish a 2 page article in Europa Nostra, but the 
deadline would be short. Is there anything you'd like to share in such an 
article? I imagine a few scenarios: 
- 1. Make a piece about WLM in the past years - 2. Make a piece about WLM in 
2015, with a short outlook for 2016. I'm not sure if this would give the best 
material - 3. Make a piece showcasing 3-5 national competitions in the wider 
European region (Council of Europe - which includes Russia etc) and making it a 
little more about the national stories.  
I personally am a bit in favour of the third, which could let us tell a story 
about national competitions, how volunteers play a role etc. But I would need 
your help! Who would be able to help write a piece? What would be your 
favourite approach? 
Best, Lodewijk 

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