Yeah, the number of words is less than I expected, the liked more photos from our side :) That is a good thing, I guess!
Alexander: the ultimate deadline is Sunday, but maybe you could send in a first draft by Friday? Then we can work on it together on Saturday, and make sure everything fits together well. Best, Lodewijk On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Mykola Kozlenko <mycol...@ukr.net> wrote: > Hi, > > We actually already published a post on Wikimedia blog about this last > year: > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/19/ukraine-secret-cultural-heritage/ , > we also wrote about this in our WLM photo album ( > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWlm_2014_Ukraine.pdf&page=4 > ) and elsewhere. It is unfortunate that the number of stories dropped from > 5 to 3, but we are still available to provide a 100-word story if needed. > > Thanks, > Mykola (NickK) > > 06 квітня 2016, 00:51:08, від "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>: > > Hi, > > OK. In total we have 350-400 words. So I propose: > - 100 words for 3 stories each > - 100 words for a general surrounding explanation. > > I propose the following stories: > - RU about travelling long distances by photographers > - NL about collecting municipal lists > - IT about the struggle with legislation & permissions > > Each story can be 100 words in English, with a few good photos that go > with it (not sure how many we can fit in). > > Would that work? Please confirm. > > Unfortunately we can't put more stories in! But NickK, it would be great > to include something on the WLM (or Wikimedia) blog! Could I keep the UA > story as a backup for this? It sounds more complicated to explain in 100 > words than the NL story, and I like the geographic diversity > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Mykola Kozlenko <mycol...@ukr.net> wrote: > > Hi Lodewijk, > > We in Ukraine would be interested to participate, especially because we > have just released a journal about Wiki Loves Monuments for exactly the > same audience - monuments professionals and volunteers - and thus we > already have some materials ready (in Ukrainian). > > Probably the most interesting story from us would be about "making our own > lists" - not in the meaning that we are doing original research, but in the > meaning that Ukraine has strictly no cultural heritage register. Instead > several hundreds of institutions maintain their own official lists, from > the Ministry of Culture to municipalities, and they hardly communicate with > each other. The process involved sending requests to all of them, > digitising and converting these lists, collaborating with local historians > and museums who sometimes had the necessary lists and even requesting the > lists in the court when a local administration refused to provide them. As > a result, we have the most complete monument lists that ever existed in > Ukraine. > > If this story does not work, we can also write about the "WLM community" > we have, i.e. people who travel, visit, picture and document monuments > during the year and upload photos of 1000+ monuments in September. > > If this corresponds to what you are looking for, please tell us what do we > have to provide. > > Thanks, > Mykola (NickK) > WLM Ukraine > > --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- > Від кого: "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> > Дата: 3 квітня 2016, 19:34:54 > > Hi, > > the target audience would be heritage (monuments) professionals and > volunteers. So what we would probably want to transfer, is enthusiasm for > free knowledge, for collaborating with online movements, for sharing > information. So it would be especially nice to share a story, I think. Not > so much describing the whole competition, but taking out one aspect, and > telling a narrative. In Italy, I suspect the story about how all the > government institutions came together to work around silly legislation > would be a great story. The size of Russia and the travelling involved > might make a nice story too. I'm a little less convinced that the 'making > our own lists' would come across well, but I don't know enough about that. > > Yaroslav's suggestion for taking 'we have covered everything' might work > too, in several countries. In the Netherlands, I could imagine a story > about collecting the municipal lists (this involved calling them all, and > collecting and converting them one by one). > > What other stories do you know about, that we could share? > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > My ideas about WLM in Russia would be: > > - no national register of cultural heritage (we are basically making one > ourselves, and it's at least as good as different 'official' registers > created over the years) > - no freedom of panorama for sculptures (see Italy) > - amazing traveling activity of our participants (last year we offered a > special nomination for the maximum number of regions covered; the winner > uploaded photos from 31 regions (out of ~85 regions in total), which is > quite a lot considering the size of the country) > > There is likely not enough space to mention everything, but you can point > me to the topic that will be most interesting for the European readers. > > -Alexander > > > On 03.04.2016 19:14, Lodewijk wrote: > > Hi, > > OK, it seems the most interesting would be scenario 3. I have a good idea > what the story in Italy might look like :) Alexander, what would be the > story about Russia? > > I think a story about Austria might be nice too? Given that it is one of > the most successful countries in terms of coverage? > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Alexander Tsirlin < <altsir...@gmail.com> > altsir...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Lodewijk, > > I can write something about WLM in Russia, but I have to know the size > limit and the time scale. > > Best, > Alexander > > > On 03.04.2016 13:34, Lodewijk wrote: > > Hey folks, > > it may be possible to publish a 2 page article in Europa Nostra, but the > deadline would be short. Is there anything you'd like to share in such an > article? I imagine a few scenarios: > > - 1. Make a piece about WLM in the past years > - 2. Make a piece about WLM in 2015, with a short outlook for 2016. I'm > not sure if this would give the best material > - 3. Make a piece showcasing 3-5 national competitions in the wider > European region (Council of Europe - which includes Russia etc) and making > it a little more about the national stories. > > I personally am a bit in favour of the third, which could let us tell a > story about national competitions, how volunteers play a role etc. But I > would need your help! Who would be able to help write a piece? 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