On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Bence Damokos <bdamo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Sam Klein <sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu> > wrote: > >> Thanks, Bence and Greg. I appreciate all of the thought going into this. >> Can you describe the groups that might have been problematic as UGs? >> I think both becoming and stopping to be a UG should be a simple process. >> > > Thanks Sam - your thinking is always refreshing. > > I believe, I and Greg have mentioned a few examples without naming names, > but in general, the question we ask is whether a group is genuine (i.e. are > they who they say they are; are they part of the Wikimedia community), do > they mean well (i.e. do they want to make a quick buck with the name or > some quick grant and disappear, or are they genuinely trying to further the > mission), and often can they be a constructive part of the movement (a sort > of human, interpersonal factor that takes more time to ascertain where > groups that have relationships with other groups or where they have > "non-standard" relationships with us). > > Also, somewhat unfortunately in my view, there is a requirement for user > groups is to have a "history of projects", which was not further defined, > but in theory makes it impossible to form a user group before there has > been a "history". Defining this requirement and whether any "non-standard" > (as compared to existing examples) group meets the requirement creates a > whole meta process in each process where by executing the process we are > defining what the outcome (i.e. user groups) are supposed to be. I wish > this could be a one man job, as there would be so much more agreement, but > perhaps the results would be less optimal than when we rely on the > consensus of a committee with years of experience and a multitude of > viewpoints. > > In any case, the more automation and simplification we can introduce into > the process, the better. Unfortunately, those that are first in some way, > will have to live through the meta process while we check the boxes, but > they get to write history the same way supreme court cases do :) > > Best regards, > Bence > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
