On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Where is anyone whining about this?
> Nobody here is.
> The point being made is about why other grants are not being accepted.
>

So, to summarise:

"Please, let's stop complaining on the basis that this excludes men"
"Where is anyone doing that? We're complaining on the basis that this
excludes men".



> On 08-Jan-2015 10:06 pm, "Keilana" <keilanaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hearing people whine “what about the men” because, God forbid, men might
> > not get *every single* grant this time (as they did in the pilot round of
> > IEGs), is incredibly tiresome.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Peter Southwood <
> > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >
> > > If you take it entirely at face value, I find it quite inoffensive.
> As I
> > > have no experience with reviewing grant proposals, I can't comment on
> its
> > > accuracy, but I am quite happy to take Fred's word for it.
> > > Offence is often available if you search for it hard enough.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> > > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Fæ
> > > Sent: 08 January 2015 06:17 PM
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender
> > > gap project-related decision
> > >
> > > On 8 Jan 2015 16:11, "FRED BAUDER" <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > >  I've noticed that women are often quite motivated and good at
> writing
> > > grant proposals.
> > >
> > > Extending good faith I would presume this is irony. It does not
> transmit
> > > well by email. Please keep in mind how offensive this sort of thing
> > appears.
> > >
> > > Fae
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