What gnangarra has wroten is soo true...
100% agree > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:23:29 +0800 > From: gnanga...@gmail.com > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update > > I think the PR people really need to be more reflective in the reasons and > uses of the donations in their messages because its rather easy to show the > inconsistancy between the message and the use of donated funds... IMHO some > of the drop off in donations is due to this lack reflectivity in the > messages being sent . > > > even the simplest throw away tag in almost every banner of "lets us get > to back to improving wikipedia" doesnt hold as everyone knows WMF doesnt > have any control over content and therefore cant improve it, very little of > the fu nds ever trickles down to coal face where the contributors are. > > On 4 November 2015 at 10:04, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > (Sorry, something went awry with my mail client. Let's try this again to > > keep the thread intact). > > > > Besides what readers think when they're fully informed, I'm also concerned > > about the legal issues surrounding the fundraising. IANAL, but I have a > > feeling that consumer protection attorneys may take an interest if they > > feel that there is a meaningful disconnect between what messages FR conveys > > and (1) how the funds are actually spent and/or (2) the overall financial > > health of WMF. Let's avoid inflicting legal costs and PR damage on > > ourselves, please. (: > > > > Pine > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Lisa Gruwell <lgruw...@wikimedia.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > So, we have drilled down on this more in our research to better > > > > understand what our readers think on this topic. We should have more > > to > > > > share on that in a week or two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What readers think about this topic will very much depend on what > > > information they have been given. > > > > > > You need to find out what readers think who know > > > > > > 1. the cost of Internet hosting relative to the total budget (about 3 > > > percent); > > > 2. that you took five times as much money last year as you took five > > years > > > ago; > > > 3. how much money the Foundation has in cash and investments; > > > 4. that the number of paid staff has increased more than twentyfold since > > > 2007; > > > 5. how the vastly increased spending is affecting reader experience. > > > > > > Do you know what readers who know all of this think about the banners? > > Have > > > there been focus groups with donors who were given all of this > > information? > > > > > > This is necessary to make sure that when (not if) readers do find all of > > > this information out, there won't be a storm of protest from people who > > > feel they were misled as to the Foundation's financial situation. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > GN. > President Wikimedia Australia > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>