That sounds interesting, Lila. Would it be possible to introduce some
concepts of beeing agile in this process and forget about quarterly goals
and 3 year planning?

Rupert
On Nov 24, 2015 19:53, "Lila Tretikov" <l...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi Craig,
>
> You are right, this has been an ongoing request for years. This year we did
> many infrastructure updates for financial planning. However we missed some
> objectives. I take responsibility, specifically for the very short
> community feedback window on the annual plan this year. We fixed this in
> our upcoming plan. Overall we have improved in some of our core budgeting
> and accounting areas, but still have work to do.
>
> This is what we have done this year to set up for financial controls:
>
> + Implemented KPIs across the organizations.
> + Implemented quarterly goals and reviews across organization.
> + Reduced book close to 15 days.
> + Catalogued projects to set up project-based accounting.
> + Created business cases to evaluate cost/benefit analysis as an evaluation
> tool for new projects.
> + Accounting/analytics software updates.
>
> Here is what is upcoming the rest of the fiscal year:
>
> + 3 year forward revenue/spend forecast.
> + A consultation with community about strategic goals.
> + A 30 day review period for the annual plan.
> + More detailed annual plan, project based accounting where possible.
> Impact goals.
> + Gap analysis of the annual plan vs. FDC.
> + Wikidata integration into the annual plan.
>
> Here is what under advisement:
>
> + 3rd party review of the annual plan.
> + FDC process alignment.
>
> Project based budgeting and 3 year forward projections are going to give us
> good understanding of the overall costs of multi-year projects. We will be
> able to answer for the total cost of developing Wikidata or new editing
> environment. This is a great improvement over what we were able to do
> previously and will help us with setting priorities in the future.
>
>
> Lila
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Lila,
> >
> > I very much appreciate your prompt response, but this has been an ongoing
> > issue for years.  What is required now is not more going around in
> circles
> > with "consultation" and "discussions" that don't go anywhere; what is
> > needed is for the WMF to take action to improve the transparency of its
> > planning, and review its planning process so that the plans end up
> having a
> > closer relation to the actual outcomes.  The ball, as they say, is firmly
> > in your court.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > On 24 November 2015 at 14:27, Lila Tretikov <l...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> >> We fully acknowledge the issue with the shortened AP review this year
> and
> >> are committed to the 30 day review going forward. Since the overall
> issue
> >> has been noted since as far back as 2012 we are doing a review of our
> >> process in comparison to the FDC standards to build best practices going
> >> forward. You can add you comments here to help guide the conversation:
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LilaTretikov_(WMF)#Annual_Plan
> >>
> >> Lila
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Craig Franklin <
> >> cfrank...@halonetwork.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I likewise appreciate the strong language on the situation with the
> WMF;
> >>> the general opacity and vagueness of public budget plans (especially
> >>> considering the requirements for affiliate organisations in this area)
> is
> >>> something that has been widely noted on this list and elsewhere, and to
> >>> my
> >>> mind not answered in a satisfactory way.  It is good to see a fearless
> >>> FDC
> >>> that is prepared to "tell it as it is", and make sure that this problem
> >>> is
> >>> receiving continued attention.
> >>>
> >>> It is my hope that the Foundation will address the issues raised here
> in
> >>> a
> >>> constructive and transparent manner, rather than ignoring them or
> trying
> >>> to
> >>> spin them away.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >>> On 24 November 2015 at 12:04, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Thank you FDC.
> >>> >
> >>> > Many of the small and midsized APG requests fared well in this round.
> >>> That
> >>> > is nice to see.
> >>> >
> >>> > I find it concerning that the larger the organization, the more
> >>> problems
> >>> > the FDC  seemed to find with the org's budget and performance
> >>> management
> >>> > practices. One would expect the larger organizations to have mature
> and
> >>> > robust practices in these areas. Regarding WMF in particular, my
> >>> concerns
> >>> > about its budget practices are well documented and I appreciate that
> >>> the
> >>> > FDC is also taking note of the persistence of the problems. I hope
> >>> that WMF
> >>> > will get serious about its financial transpatency.
> >>> >
> >>> > A couple of questions about Wikidata:
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm confused about the funding for Wikidata. In one place the FDC
> says
> >>> that
> >>> > "Nonetheless, the FDC is exasperated by the inability of WMDE to to
> >>> > disaggregate the costs of Wikidata from other projects." and in
> another
> >>> > place the FDC says that "We have recommended a reduced amount for
> WMDE
> >>> in
> >>> > this round with the expectation that WMDE will not cut Wikidata or
> >>> their
> >>> > other tech development work, but will instead find cost savings
> >>> elsewhere
> >>> > in its annual plan." If the FDC wants a disaggregated budget (which
> is
> >>> > understandable) then why is the FDC expecting WMDE to dip into its
> >>> other
> >>> > funds and/or make cuts elsewhere in order to cover the work in this
> >>> > proposal that the FDC is declining to fund in this proposal? This
> >>> > expectation seems to be a bit of a contradiction.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm also wondering how WMDE is able to submit a dedicated request for
> >>> > restricted funding for Wikidata if the Wikidata project is so
> >>> integrated
> >>> > into WMDE's other budgets that the FDC finds the integration to be
> >>> > problematic. Can the FDC or our colleagues at WMDE explain this?
> >>> >
> >>> > Wikidata is a high profile project with a good reputation, and I hope
> >>> that
> >>> > the issues can be resolved soon.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> >
> >>> > Pine
> >>> > On Nov 23, 2015 14:09, "matanya moses" <mata...@foss.co.il> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Hello Wikimedians,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > tl;dr: The FDC’s recommendations for this round of the APG grant
> >>> requests
> >>> > > have now been published at:
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2015-2016_round1
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) meets twice a year to help
> >>> make
> >>> > > decisions about how to effectively allocate movement funds to
> >>> achieve the
> >>> > > Wikimedia movement's mission, vision, and strategy. [1] We met for
> >>> four
> >>> > > days last week in San Francisco to review 11 proposals submitted
> for
> >>> this
> >>> > > round of funding. [2]
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The committee has now posted our Round 1 2015-2016 recommendations
> >>> on the
> >>> > > annual plan grants (APG) to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> >>> Trustees.
> >>> > [3]
> >>> > > The WMF Board representatives to the FDC (Denny Vrandecic, Jan-Bart
> >>> de
> >>> > > Vreede and Dariusz Jemielniak) will lead the Board in its review of
> >>> these
> >>> > > recommendations. The WMF Board will review the recommendations and
> >>> then
> >>> > > make their decision on them before 1 January 2016.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > This round, the eleven proposals came from ten chapters and one
> >>> thematic
> >>> > > organisation, totaling requests of approximately $3.8 million USD.
> >>> Ten
> >>> > > affiliates were returning to the APG program, and one was a new
> >>> > applicant.
> >>> > > This round, one organisation requested a restricted grant to
> support
> >>> one
> >>> > > particular program. All other grant requests were for general
> >>> funding.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Before we met for our face-to-face deliberations, the FDC carefully
> >>> > > reviewed all proposals and supporting documentation (e.g., budgets,
> >>> > plans,
> >>> > > strategies) in detail, aided by staff assessments and analysis on
> >>> impact,
> >>> > > finances, and programs, as well as community comments on the
> >>> proposals.
> >>> > The
> >>> > > committee had long and intense conversations about the proposals
> >>> > submitted
> >>> > > this round. By listening and carefully considering all available
> >>> data,
> >>> > the
> >>> > > committee achieved consensus on all proposal deliberations.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > In addition to the above, the FDC has also included a
> recommendation
> >>> > about
> >>> > > the WMF itself to improve its own level of planning transparency
> and
> >>> > budget
> >>> > > detail. The WMF staff were not involved in the conception or
> writing
> >>> of
> >>> > > this additional recommendation.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > For your reference, there is a formal process to submit appeals
> about
> >>> > > these recommendations or complaints about the FDC process. The
> >>> processes
> >>> > > for both are outlined below.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Any applicant that wants to appeal the FDC’s recommendation about
> >>> their
> >>> > > proposal this round should submit it by 23:59 UTC on 8 December
> 2015
> >>> in
> >>> > > accordance with the appeal process outlined in the FDC Framework. A
> >>> > formal
> >>> > > appeal to challenge the FDC’s recommendation should be in the form
> >>> of a
> >>> > > 500-or-fewer word summary. The appeal should be submitted on-wiki,
> >>> [4]
> >>> > and
> >>> > > must be submitted by the Board Chair of a funding-seeking
> applicant.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Complaints about the process can be filed by anyone with the
> >>> > Ombudsperson,
> >>> > > and can be made any time. The complaint should be submitted on
> wiki,
> >>> as
> >>> > > well. [5] The ombudsperson will publicly document the complaint,
> and
> >>> > > investigate as needed.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Please take a look at the upcoming calendar [6] to learn about
> other
> >>> > > upcoming milestones in the APG program.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Again, we offer our sincere thanks to the 11 organisations who
> >>> submitted
> >>> > > annual plan grant proposals to the FDC this round.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On behalf of the FDC,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Matanya Moses (FDC chair), User:Matanya
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG
> >>> > > [2]
> >>> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round1
> >>> > > [3]
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/2015-2016_round1
> >>> > > [4]
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC
> >>> > > [5]
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Complaints_about_the_FDC_process
> >>> > > [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Calendar
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
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