was it fun? On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Mardetanha <mardetanha.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > I also concur that best part of wikimania is get to know other wikimedians > and fascinating stories , but nevertheless the workshops are also very > useful. in each wikimania we enjoy both. I learnt a lot from them all. > > Mardetanha > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Most Wikimedians are very interesting people. However Milos has hit the >> nail on the head when he says the most interesting things happening at >> Wikimedia events are 1-1 conversations. >> >> In my view we don't have a "personality" problem (and if we did, we >> couldn't fix it). >> >> What we have, at least in the offline space, is an *event management* and >> *meeting skills" problem. >> >> We do not set up events to make anything *apart* from 1-1 conversations >> effective. Events typically lack goals and focused programmes. Where issues >> are being discussed, they lack common agreement about what problems are >> trying to be solved and what voices need to be represented in the >> solutions. Where skills are being shared, they lack a definition of what it >> is people need to know and how to teach it to them effectively. And more or >> less throughout, we have a low level of presentation and/or facilitation >> skills as we don't actively train people in these. >> >> We are groping towards success in a couple of areas I'm familiar with, e.g. >> the Wikimedia Conference is more clearly focused year on year. But there is >> still a long way to go! >> >> Regards, >> >> Chris >> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I think the term that I would use is "serious". Of course we're serious >> > about the quality of our product. However that can involve plenty of >> stress >> > and burn-out. We deal with a lot of serious issues: conflicts of >> interest, >> > harassment, finances, legal compliance, reliability, privacy, safety, and >> > more. My personal experience is that there's little gratitude for good >> > work, and lots of complaints when things go awry. I would like to see us >> > foster an emotional environment that's a bit on the brighter side, and >> > would be interested in others' thoughts about how we can do that. >> > >> > Pine >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
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