> > BTW, it's more "community selected" than "community representative". There's an important distinction there. >
Quite - all WMF trustees have identical responsibilities, regardless of which method of selection resulted in them being on the board. For instance Alice and Phoebe both served on the Board under via different routes, they didn't end up representing different people as a result. > Thanks, > Mike > > > On 29 Dec 2015, at 13:19, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > It's more complex if they've acted illegally, certainly. Under the law > > they're citing, it looks like they have. Since community directors are > > elected by a "class" (editors meeting the eligibility requirements), the > > law states removal would be possible only by that class, one would presume > > by referendum in this case. > > > > I think we need to know if the Board considered this requirement. > > On Dec 29, 2015 5:33 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hoi, > >> <grin> it is a great shitstorm</grin> Do remember that a community chosen > >> representative voted the other community chosen representative out. It is > >> not a case of he must be good, the others are bad. It is more complicated. > >> Thanks, > >> GerardM > >> > >> On 29 December 2015 at 13:19, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> there are bigger questions than why like; > >>> > >>> - how can this take place > >>> - how can the community ensure its representatives independence in the > >>> future, > >>> - what effect will this have on other elected representatives on the > >>> board > >>> > >>> The Florida statute( > >>> https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/617.0808 ) referred > >>> to earlier says that If a director is elected by a class, chapter, or > >> other > >>> organizational unit, or by region or other geographic grouping, the > >>> director may be removed only by the members of that class, chapter, unit, > >>> or grouping. Do they even have ability to remove the person in the first > >>> place given the action of the board why are they also determining the > >> next > >>> steps in the replacing our representative. > >>> > >>> Gn. > >>> > >>> On 29 December 2015 at 19:53, Thomas Goldammer <tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> 2015-12-29 10:15 GMT+01:00 Isarra Yos <zhoris...@gmail.com>: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> It says a lot, but just what that is depends entirely on the context. > >>> And > >>>>> for community members who voted for him, that context could mean we > >>>> should > >>>>> also no longer have confidence in him elsewhere in the projects, or > >> in > >>>> the > >>>>> board, or have no bearing on either thing whatsoever. Not knowing > >> just > >>>>> means there's no indication what to trust. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I'd rather lose the trust and confidence in those 8 Board members than > >> in > >>>> him without knowing what was the cause for his disbarment. ;) > >>>> > >>>> Maybe the Board by-laws have to be changed, too. Throwing out a > >>>> community-elected member like this, without providing a reason, is no > >> way > >>>> to deal with the community who elected this member. It should be > >>> mandatory > >>>> that the Board provides reasons together with the announcement to avoid > >>>> exactly this kind of discussions and speculations, not a day (or more) > >>>> later. > >>>> > >>>> And as for no-cause disbarments for community-elected members in a > >>>> community-driven environment - uhm... I don't need to delve into that, > >>>> everyone can see the problem. The Board should just not be allowed to > >>>> disbar community-elected members without a cause, as that undermines > >> the > >>>> authority of the community over those seats on the Board. > >>>> > >>>> Th. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >>>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l , > >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>