On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Isaac David <isacdaa...@isacdaavid.info> wrote: > > Le lun. 18 janv. 2016 à 3:17, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com> a > écrit : >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Goodman <dgge...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Nor am I concerned that our information might be used by people who >>> oppose >>> our >>> principles. We ask just the same of our contributors--that the >>> information >>> they contribute may be used for ''any'' purpose. >>> >> >> >> My concern is when our CC-BY-SA (or CC0) user-generated information is not >> shared-alike AND it is a cost for the movement (ie a cost in terms of >> bandwidth and electricity). >> If Google harvests our information, using massively the API we provide, >> and >> they just make it a silo for them to use (for the Knowledge Graph, for >> example) and this hurts us, I'm wondering if >> we can do something about it. There are only very few players who can take >> all our information and use it as an internal asset, enriching it and NOT >> sharing it. >> >> I don't think in binary, so for me there is no contradiction to have a >> CC-BY-SA content, but some caveat for big, big, big players. >> I'm not saying (nobody is) that we have to shift to a NC license. Just >> that I don't want our movement to be hurt by multi-billion dollars >> companies: I'm not an expert of the commons (I bet many people in this >> list >> are) so I'm genuinely interested in hearing opinions about this. Is such >> thing as "tragedy of the digital commons"? Can Google (or Amazon or >> Facebook) exploits us? >> >> Now please tell me (gently, :-D) where is my mistake in this line of >> thought. >> >> Aubrey > > > CC-BY-SA allows everyone (including big companies) to modify (for instance, > to enrich) > and not share-alike AS LONG AS their extended work is kept private. That > means > Facebook pages and Google infoboxes based on CC-BY-SA content ought to carry > the CC-BY-SA license too, because they are distributed to an audience wider > than the > changes' copyright owners (usually the companies themselves).
By this logic, and it is reasonable but debatable, if a Google search infobox should be CC-BY-SA, then Wikidata items that contain all the same infobox values from a Wikipedia article should also be CC-BY-SA. -- John Vandenberg _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
