A little late into the discussion I just want to note that aside from the factual reservations, which seem to make sense, the overall tone, context and setting of the WMF Annual report is something I wholeheartedly agree with, and I feel that it conveys a sense of urgency on a few fronts that could benefit from more truthfulness.
The world looks quite different when you're contributing to Wiki projects just kilometers away from the bloody civil war in Syria, in a country where freedom of speech is continuously threatened. I for one am happy to be a part of a Movement that will not stay silent in the face of "post-truths" and the growing impediments to basic civic (and other) freedoms. If this is considered a political statement, so be it. Ido On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of George William Herbert > Sent: Saturday, 04 March 2017 10:47 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report" > > I think that the idea of taking the weekend off from the topic is > excellent. We may not have reached universal consensus yet but everything > we needed to have said was, and it's been acknowledged as received and > under consideration. > > Have a good weekend everyone. > > -george > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:38 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Rogol, > > > > I don't get the impression that Anna's position is that "everything is > > all right and that (WMF doesn't) need our help after all". That > > comment comes across to me as inflammatory and unhelpful. > > > > It seems to me that Anna is interested in improving the situation > > rather than having a battle with the community. I'd like to let the > > improvement process happen. Please have some patience, and let's be > > grateful that WMF is trying to make the situation better. I would > > rather see a thoughtfully re-designed report in 2 weeks than pour > > gasoline on the fire and have another report come out on Monday that > also has problems. > > > > Pine > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14054 - Release Date: 03/04/17 > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>