A little late into the discussion I just want to note that aside from the
factual reservations, which seem to make sense, the overall tone, context
and setting of the WMF Annual report is something I wholeheartedly agree
with, and I feel that it conveys a sense of urgency on a few fronts that
could benefit from more truthfulness.

The world looks quite different when you're contributing to Wiki projects
just kilometers away from the bloody civil war in Syria, in a country where
freedom of speech is continuously threatened. I for one am happy to be a
part of a Movement that will not stay silent in the face of "post-truths"
and the growing impediments to basic civic (and other) freedoms.

If this is considered a political statement, so be it.

Ido

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

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> I think that the idea of taking the weekend off from the topic is
> excellent.  We may not have reached universal consensus yet but everything
> we needed to have said was, and it's been acknowledged as received and
> under consideration.
>
> Have a good weekend everyone.
>
> -george
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> > On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:38 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rogol,
> >
> > I don't get the impression that Anna's position is that "everything is
> > all right and that (WMF doesn't) need our help after all". That
> > comment comes across to me as inflammatory and unhelpful.
> >
> > It seems to me that Anna is interested in improving the situation
> > rather than having a battle with the community. I'd like to let the
> > improvement process happen. Please have some patience, and let's be
> > grateful that WMF is trying to make the situation better. I would
> > rather see a thoughtfully re-designed report in 2 weeks than pour
> > gasoline on the fire and have another report come out on Monday that
> also has problems.
> >
> > Pine
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