Agreed as well. Anders, that is one of the most sensible posts I've seen on
this list in a long time.

Adrian Raddatz

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> Agreed,
> Peter
>
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> We have 61000 editors  that made more the 5 edits last month and 8800
> making more then 100 edits. Last election to the Board attracted 5500
> voters. These figures gives a magnitude of the numbers in the community.
>
> The number of active on this list are around 50-100, and normal
> participations in meta discussion (except when it was for Visual editor)
> are at best 100-200.
>
> I truly believe we should not be content to say these 100-200 are the
> community or spokespersons for the community. And I admire the approach
> being made by WMF in the strategy project, to actively try to reach out to
> a broader audience then these 100-200
>
> So I believe her has always been an issue of the dialogue between the
> community and WMF, both referring to who is the community and the dialogue
> in itself. But I do see that the approach being taken by WMF now and lately
> does a lot to resolve this issue and and is worth both praise and support
>
> And I do would like to see less of "We the community" by people on this
> list
>
> Anders
>
>
>
> Den 2017-03-06 kl. 20:07, skrev Rogol Domedonfors:
> > Gerard
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:28 AM, you wrote:
> >
> >> For Rogol and Pine I have an additional challenge; when the WMF is to
> >> support the community, is their time better spend serving quality or
> >> is their time better spend discussing endless procedures that make us
> >> stick in the mud as it stifles initiative?
> >>
> > A fallacious dichotomy, as no doubt you were well aware.  We need to
> > establish working and workable procedures that allow Community and
> > Foundation to engage together in planning at the level of long-term
> > strategy and medium-term technical roadmap so that the WMF are able to
> > deliver quality products that support the mission effectively.  Do you
> > think we have those already?  Or do you think we can do without them?
> >
> > "Rogol"
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