Hi Rogol, Sure, I'd be glad to talk with you about this. I think that a more interactive discussion might be helpful. Would you be willing to meet me on IRC? If so, could you email me off-list so that we can set up a time and channel for a meeting?
Thanks, Pine On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:21 AM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pine, > > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:45 PM, you wrote: > > > [...] > > > > The way that you phrase your questions sometimes comes across to me as > > having an edge than is more confrontational than I think is necessary, > and > > I am finding the tone to be a distraction from what is, I think, our > mutual > > goal of trying to align WMF more with the community. Sometimes carrots > work > > better than sticks. I have a long list of changes that I would like WMF > to > > make, but cultural change is a long term process, and sometimes patience > > works better than demands. > > > > Unfortunately cultural change is unlikely to happen against a background of > perpetual unwarranted self-congratulation and complacency. A clear > articulation of areas needing improvement and suggestions for ways of > improving may not always make for comfortable reading, but I make no > apology for presenting that position. I would have been happy to have been > able to be more detailed in my suggestions, but it seems to me that the > Foundation is, and has been for some time, unable or unwilling to > acknowledge, let alone respond to or engage with, the attempts by numerous > community members to initiate a serious engagement. Perhaps your > experience in this area has been better, and if so, I would be pleased to > hear from you what your successes have been and how you have achieved them. > > "Rogol" > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
