That's why people offwiki say they don't discuss this thing on meta or here,
because you always have an "answer" like this... this sarcasm. in it's way, an
example of an unhealthy community.
Look at what I wrote:
"Even if it is not nice to think about it, and of course you try to do it
mostly in private, you should clearly write down at least at a certain point
that you are preparing to all scenario, contacting the police and so on. it
should be a paragraph in a candidature for an event, IMHO. but it should be
done."
that's it. it's not complicated... I know because of partially direct
experience... it's part of the world, when you are professional. You can't
prepare an event of certain scale and in a certain areas and ignore it in the
final dossier. There will be someone who take a look at that. So, who talked
about "solving terrorism"? just the one who wanted to make a joke.
Maybe people are not big babies and even without constant reminder they don't
exaggerate. You have no idea with whom I discuss this aspect so far, what such
wikimedians do in their real life. They are able to focus on the point... the
point is security and if you replied this way to this question in many
situations, you will be considered unprepared.
Alex
Il Giovedì 5 Aprile 2018 20:29, Alphos OGame <alphos.og...@gmail.com> ha
scritto:
I heartily agree : build that firewall, and let Cisco pay for it !
Wait, what were you suggesting in your incipit ? Oh, right, "a way that's
rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic of course".
I'd rather not ask of people organizing conventions (which is already
time-consuming by itself) that they solve terrorism in their town, which is
what the police are probably more suited for, if you don't mind ; as a matter
of fact, it is not one of their duties as convention holders, plain and simple,
and neither are they doctors, police officers, judges, jesters, masseuses,
nannies, yoga instructors, cooks, indentured servants, etc (except of course if
they are, which may happen).
So let's please not overreact, and stick to the current discussion instead of
having the next WikiConvention in a flying fortress with armed guards, sniffing
dogs, and metal detectors at every door…
Roger / Alphos
2018-04-05 18:40 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
<wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>:
I remember we discussed 2 or 3 years about this scenario with some wikimedians
off wiki. I strongly support to discuss at least once openly about that. In a
way that it's rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic... of course.
Despite the claimed neutrality of the communities, reality always bites. Now, a
terrorist can imagine that we will not put a black banner if someone kill a lot
of people somewhere... but if same amount of wikimedians are killed at a
international rally the probability that a block ribbon, an editnotice with a
statement appear on many language edition is higher. it's an attack at the
community like it is a proposal of a law somewhere, and we naturally react
stronger.
It would be a bigger impact, if you think about it. You can get the attention
of billions of people every time they connect to the 5th or 6th largest website
in the world. Cynically speaking, if you also consider the facts that it's
about free knowledge and volunteers, than a mass murder at at a wikimedian
event might be more "effective" than at a discotheque or the seat of a
multinational conglomerate.
If i remember correctly. in the months before a certain wiki-event, many people
linked to radical activities were arrested in the area, in the same country.
So, when you organize an event, it's not just about safety but also security.
Even if it is not nice to think about it, and of course you try to do it mostly
in private, you should clearly write down at least at a certain point that you
are preparing to all scenario, contacting the police and so on. it should be a
paragraph in a candidature for an event, IMHO. but it should be done.
A.M.
Il Giovedì 5 Aprile 2018 18:09, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
I read/receive related craps
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/ index.php?title=User_talk:
Vituzzu&diff=prev&oldid= 831949995>
on
a daily basis but it's hard to tell an idiot from a psychopath, so it may
become a risk for WMF offices.
Vito
2018-04-05 17:33 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>:
> I'm sure most of you will be aware of the unfortunate events at
> YouTube's HQ a couple fo days ago:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ YouTube_headquarters_shooting
>
> Without giving away anything that might reveal vulnerabilities, does
> the WMF have contingency plans for such an incident? What about at
> community events in the US, and elsewhere?
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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