A Rake's Progress: Community decides based on consensus -----> Community decides based on raw votes ----> Community doesn't decide but everyone kinda pretends it has a real say ----> Community doesn't decide and nobody pretends it does.
I think we'll have the final painting done by the end of the year if we really try. Dan On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 9:59 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 to practically everything Nadzik said, in particular as concerns the > "corporate dialect". As for this comment: > > - I would also like to use this occasion to thank *Mike Peel* for his > vote of support on the Charter. He had the courage to be the only > dissenting Board member, only one of the six current community-sourced > Trustees > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees#Current_members> > . > > It will be interesting to see how the community and affiliates voted on > the charter. Until we have seen that, it is hard to determine to what > extent the community-and-affiliate representatives' votes were actually > representative of the movement. > > Still, it seems worth mentioning at this point that the terms of four of > the current community-and-affiliate-sourced board members are expiring this > year. > > Of those who voted for this Resolution, three are up for re-election in a > few weeks' time:[1] > > Lorenzo Losa > Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight > Victoria Doronina > > So mark the board vote timeline[2] in your calendar. The vote launches on > 3 September 2024 and ends on 17 September. > > Finally, it strikes me that even if the community-and-affiliate vote had > been reversed – five in favour of ratification, and one opposed – the Board > Resolution *not* to ratify a charter calling for greater power sharing > with the wider movement might still have passed 7:5 (unless Jimmy Wales > would have decided to endorse the majority view of the > community-and-affiliate members, in which case the board would have been > merely tied on the matter). > > The whole system is actually stacked against the movement. > > Andreas > > [1] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/News_and_notes > [2] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2024#Timeline > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 1:29 PM Wikipedysta Nadzik < > pl.wikipedia.nad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nat, >> >> I am strongly disappointed. Not even mad, just disappointed. >> >> Through the Board's and the Wikimedia Foundation's series of decisions >> [1], we have just spent a lot of community attention (*which should be >> treated as a limited resource*) on a ratification vote that is now >> without standing. The vote gave the community another chance to speak on >> the matter (and the feedback will hopefully be used going forward) but I >> don't think it was worth the sacrifice of resources (yet another global >> engagement of thousands); it was within the BoT's power to end this. So >> much for the Movement_Charter/Glossary#Care_Responsibility >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Glossary#Care_Responsibility> >> ... >> >> I have raised that after the Liaisons' initial statements: if someone >> wanted to sabotage the process (this is not a word I am using lightly), >> this is how they would do it. We had a lot of confusion created by a >> statement of just two people (and we were repeatedly told that they were >> not speaking for the Board). I am willing to argue that it has been >> partially responsible for the problems with reaching the quorum (which >> was eventually reached, but barely and at a great expense). We had two >> global meetings with 90+ people devoted to this >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network/2024_06>. >> When we asked for the Board to accelerate their process so we could save >> the community from going through the costly process that would bring no >> fruit, we were ignored. >> >> The Liaisons' statement promised us "*concrete, time-bound next steps on >> a more practical scale." *Meanwhile, the minutes from the discussion and >> the resolution itself could not be further away from the above sentence. >> There are many non-statements, vague sentences, and very few* "concrete"* >> things. My absolutely favourite (not really) statement is: >> >> - "Foundation will move forward on some of its components, including >> experiments designed to test the feasibility of proposals related to >> resource distribution, technology advancement, and support of Wikimedia >> movement organizations" >> >> I like to think of myself as quite proficient in English. However, for >> the love of gods, I could not decipher this corporate dialect. There is >> nothing concrete in this. Sentences like this are an affront to the >> community, most of which are not first-language English speakers. >> >> *To be fair, there are a couple of things worth mentioning as positives:* >> >> - The executive summary >> >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_resolution_and_vote_on_the_proposed_Movement_Charter/Appendix> >> is >> an excellent step toward transparency and better communication, but the >> rest of the document and statements linked above are still very legal and >> exclusive. >> - I would also like to use this occasion to thank *Mike Peel* for his >> vote of support on the Charter. He had the courage to be the only >> dissenting Board member, only one of the six current >> community-sourced Trustees >> >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees#Current_members> >> . >> - Lastly, I'd like to thank the Movement Charter Drafting Committee >> for their work. We have sometimes disagreed, but their work was hard, and >> they never crumbled. Kudos! >> >> >> My disappointment is not with the final decision of the Board; after all, >> you are independent stakeholders in this ratification. The disappointment >> comes from the lack of grace in this process. I worked as a facilitator at >> the beginning of the Movement Charter process. I am sad that this is how it >> ended. I hope that another two years, as decided in your letter [2], will >> bring some fruition :) >> >> [1] – "Because the Board of Trustees holds ultimate financial and >> fiduciary obligations, they are ultimately responsible [...] >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_resolution_and_vote_on_the_proposed_Movement_Charter/Appendix> >> ". >> [2] – "timeline for this work will involve a preparation phase (to begin >> immediately), an implementation phase (from January 2025 to December 2026, >> with the Board committed to ongoing monitoring), and an evaluation phase >> (to be completed by April 2027) >> <https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Draft_Movement_Charter_and_next_steps> >> " >> >> Sad cheers, >> -- >> >> >> Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him) >> >> Wikimania 2024 Katowice – Team Lead >> >> Wikimedia Europe Board Member >> >> Wikipedia Administrator >> >> User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik> >> >> czw., 11 lip 2024 o 12:35 Nataliia Tymkiv <ntym...@wikimedia.org> >> napisał(a): >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> As we await the outcome from all stakeholders who voted on the draft >>> Movement Charter ratification, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees >>> met on Monday, July 8, to discuss and cast the Foundation’s vote. >>> >>> *On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees I am sharing >>> the results of that vote, the resolution, meeting minutes, and proposed >>> next steps.* >>> >>> *==Draft Movement Charter== * >>> >>> >>> The proposed charter represents a tremendous amount of work done by the >>> Movement >>> Charter Drafting Committee >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee>, >>> alongside several others. The creation of a charter was one of several >>> recommendations to come from the Movement Strategy process alongside the >>> Strategic Direction that continues to guide the Wikimedia Foundation. >>> >>> At the same time, the vote on the proposed charter has provided an >>> opportunity for all of us to reflect on what has changed – and continues to >>> change – since the original Movement Strategy process started in 2018. The >>> Foundation has tried to consistently identify these issues in its annual >>> plan >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2024-2025>, >>> strategic planning priorities >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Chief_Executive_Officer/Updates/April_2024_Update>, >>> and elsewhere >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Chief_Executive_Officer/Updates/February_2024_Update>. >>> They include numerous and growing external threats (and some opportunities) >>> of a rapidly changing and fragmenting internet – from the nature of search >>> to the rise of generative AI. We have also seen an increase in global >>> regulations of content and platforms that have an impact on our people and >>> our projects. Furthermore, our collective resources have not been >>> growing as quickly >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2024-2025/Financial_Model> >>> as we had seen in prior periods. This has required more clarity on >>> priorities, trade-offs, and pragmatism. >>> >>> It is because of these myriad challenges and complex realities that >>> clarifying roles and responsibilities within the Wikimedia movement is >>> more, not less, important. That is why the Board and the Foundation have >>> been cautiously assessing how best to move forward at this point, after >>> providing significant support to the Movement Charter Drafting Committee in >>> undertaking this task. >>> >>> Our hope is to take solutions from the intent of the draft charter and >>> consider where a future Global Council may be able to provide benefits to >>> us all. We believe that this can only be done through concrete, >>> practical, and time-bound next steps, based on the areas identified in the >>> final draft charter text, rather than a wholesale adoption of the >>> proposed charter in its final form. >>> >>> *==Board resolution==* >>> >>> >>> Therefore, in the Special Board meeting this week, the Wikimedia >>> Foundation Board of Trustees voted not to ratify the proposed Charter. >>> You can read the full Board resolution [1] and minutes of the meeting [2]. >>> >>> The Board also approved a way forward, including three experiments that >>> the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia affiliates, and community members can >>> jointly conduct in the three areas identified in the proposed Movement >>> Charter to be taken on by a future Global Council. The outlines of the >>> proposals are included in the resolution in the appendix [3] with >>> concrete proposals for these key areas. These include experiments designed >>> to test the feasibility of proposals related to resource distribution, >>> technology >>> advancement, and support of Wikimedia movement organizations. Solutions >>> for these collaborative experiments should be designed for co-ownership and >>> build on the capabilities of the entire Wikimedia movement. And the comments >>> received with the votes during the ratification would help shape these >>> proposals more. >>> >>> *==What’s next==* >>> >>> >>> As of this writing, 2,451 individual voters participated and 129 >>> affiliate votes were cast, meeting the quorum for both groups. By July 24, >>> the outcome of these votes along with comments will be published so that >>> any proposed next steps can benefit from the input, reflections, and >>> recommendations of all voters. It is important to listen to the feedback >>> that has been provided through this process before taking further steps. >>> >>> Following that, we shall ask for help in the coming months designing >>> spaces on- and off-wiki to request more feedback and improvements to the >>> specific proposals being offered to help us now move forward together. Some >>> of this can happen at Wikimania for those planning to attend, as we shall >>> also be offering our formal thanks at Wikimania to the Movement Charter >>> Drafting Committee members for their work. >>> >>> To provide any comments in the meantime, please leave a comment on the >>> main talk page of the appendix on Meta [4]. Alternatively, you can request >>> a conversation with Foundation leadership as a part of Talking:2024 >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Talking:_2024>. >>> You can also use the Let’s Talk >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Talking:_2024#Let%27s_talk> >>> feature to sign up for a time to speak with me and/or other trustees. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Draft_Movement_Charter_and_next_steps >>> >>> >>> [2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2024-07-08 >>> >>> [3] >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_resolution_and_vote_on_the_proposed_Movement_Charter/Appendix >>> >>> >>> [4] >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_resolution_and_vote_on_the_proposed_Movement_Charter/Appendix >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv >>> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees >>> >>> *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal >>> working hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during >>> weekend. 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