Adding Kapil Sibal is an idiot is definitely vandalism, but saying 1000s of Twitter users and internet activists described him as an idiot with a citation to back it up is not. ;-)
On 07/12/2011, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote: > Adding "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" on the Wikipedia article is vandalism > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibal&action=historysubmit&diff=464355055&oldid=464353638 > > > Addling "verifiable facts" is acceptable ( including controversies and > criticism" > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibal&action=historysubmit&diff=464367647&oldid=464366606 > > > Hope I clarified the difference. > > Regards > Tinu Cherian > > P.S. On a lighter note, Please feel to add "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" , if > you can provide/prove that with "Verifiable references" from "Reliable > Sources" :) > > > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vickram Crishna > <vvcris...@radiophony.com>wrote: > >> Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done >> it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current >> affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting >> every side of the picture is important. >> >> Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally >> hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag >> #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case? >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham < >> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* : >>> >>> " Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet" >>> >>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-cant-censor-the-internet/articleshow/11018330.cms >>> >>> >>> "*Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential >>> that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to >>> self-regulation. * >>> * >>> * >>> *3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have >>> imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and >>> comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries >>> like "Kapil Sibal", which have been locked due to vandalism!). * >>> * >>> * >>> *If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct >>> it.* " >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Tinu Cherian >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will >>>> hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook. >>>> >>>> On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala <aprabh...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> fyi >>>> >> >>>> >> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants >>>> to >>>> >> Censor >>>> >> social >>>> >> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 >>>> >> From: Achal Prabhala <aprabh...@gmail.com> >>>> >> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List < >>>> >> foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to >>>> be of >>>> > the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is >>>> > proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and >>>> connecting the >>>> > two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his >>>> > support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every >>>> byte >>>> > of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 >>>> > different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed >>>> with >>>> > its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means >>>> > much >>>> > more than images. >>>> > >>>> > If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think >>>> Wikimedia >>>> > projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media >>>> sites >>>> > cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that >>>> goes >>>> > to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions >>>> and >>>> > some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. >>>> > Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much >>>> work >>>> > to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community >>>> if >>>> > such a thing happens. >>>> > >>>> > There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to >>>> submit >>>> > to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation >>>> does >>>> > not arise for us to take those tough calls. >>>> > >>>> > PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has >>>> high >>>> > SNR IMO. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Regards >>>> > Srikanth.L >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan. >>>> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. >>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Vickram >> Fool On The Hill <http://communicall.wordpress.com> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. 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