What I meant is that someone should take up outreach coordination within the community. That way documentation, compiling, connecting people with other people is centralized and easier to manage.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:04 PM, <wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com> wrote: > There needs to be some kinda national coordination. In Mumbai, we are in > touch with Raj Bhavan and the Maharashtra State Archives. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:27:45 +0530 > From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam > > > Hello all :) > I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in > talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully > because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the > chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation who > is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. > SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up. > > I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more > people who agree or disagree. *Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the > bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a > community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have a > single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or > updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * > Warmly > Noopur > > PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) ) > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the > Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration > in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured > Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are > documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is > what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture > and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save > it on Wiki. > > On 12/12/2011, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Pradeep and the rest of you, > > > > What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and > > Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India > > Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or > > meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture > of > > good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very > seriously, > > every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk > > more about that :) > > Warmly > > Noopur > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < > > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> hi, > >> > >> Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and > >> concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect. > >> > >> Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on > >> building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and > >> Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in > >> art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in > >> the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit > >> and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that > >> we need to foster more in the Indian community. > >> There are people on this mailing list who are interested in > >> participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and > >> participate in the conversation. > >> > >> warm regards, > >> Pradeep > >> > >> On 12/12/2011, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Dear all, > >> > These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form > >> > of > >> > some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, > >> most > >> > of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as > >> > collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I > am > >> > grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping > >> > encourage GLAM participation in India. > >> > This is the link to the programs: > >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in > each > >> > session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! > >> > > >> > > >> > Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? > >> > > >> > Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has > >> pending > >> > requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. > >> > Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata > sharing, > >> > open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that > institutions > >> go > >> > by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or > commons > >> > is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar > >> > archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. > >> > > >> > > >> > Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? > >> > > >> > Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the > >> > 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared > >> > to your > >> > own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not > hard > >> > either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? > >> > > >> > Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations > (PPT), > >> > simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple > numbers, > >> > percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. > >> > Use > >> > things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness > of > >> > ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. > >> This > >> > helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your > >> > hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use > >> > less > >> > jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two > >> solutions > >> > (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY > >> > week). > >> > > >> > > >> > What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain? > >> > > >> > This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is > also > >> > someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki > loves > >> > monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional > >> and > >> > national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as > a > >> > fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at > least > >> > train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one > >> contact > >> > through another. > >> > > >> > (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in > orientation. > >> > From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building > >> exercises, > >> > it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving > >> > people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing > Wikipedia > >> as > >> > a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly > >> > concentrated yet a very niche community) > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > (Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM > >> > request > >> > page, why not India? > >> > > >> > Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally > >> science > >> > and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, > few > >> lay > >> > people really know their culture or feel as passionately about > >> > conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to > >> > unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation > >> > to > >> > go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a > large > >> > communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a > >> > matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really > >> > needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art > spaces, > >> > have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller > >> > individual > >> > pilots (Sumanna) > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’? > >> > > >> > Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As > >> > wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if > there > >> > were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent > local > >> > meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional > >> > meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller > goals > >> and > >> > activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based > >> > interactions? > >> > > >> > Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach > coordinator. > >> > Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM, > >> tools, > >> > updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a > >> talk > >> > or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local > >> > community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of > >> mouth, > >> > social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a > >> > loyal reader, enthusiast base. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > What tools are used to digitize artifacts? > >> > > >> > Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to > move > >> > GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects > >> > are > >> > about? > >> > > >> > Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and > >> > outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to > >> recruit > >> > new Wikimedians > >> > > >> > Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement > >> > together. > >> > > >> > - > >> > > >> > Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup? > >> > > >> > Go to institutions and say how can we help you > >> > > >> > Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that > you > >> get > >> > focused group > >> > > >> > Organize a fb group and event > >> > > >> > Is there a monthly update? > >> > > >> > Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position > >> > > >> > Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English > community > >> > members > >> > > >> > Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM > >> are > >> > intricately connected. > >> > > >> > Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of > course, > >> > mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved > in > >> > a > >> > community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a > >> > need > >> > to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies. > >> > > >> > > >> > These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, > >> > advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about > criticism, > >> > like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses! > >> > > >> > Warmly > >> > > >> > Noopur > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Noopur Raval > >> > Student > >> > Arts and Aesthetics > >> > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > >> > Ph: 9650567690 > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Pradeep Mohandas > >> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Noopur Raval > > Student > > Arts and Aesthetics > > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > > Ph: 9650567690 > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Regards, > Srikanth Ramakrishnan. > Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > -- > Noopur Raval > Student > Arts and Aesthetics > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > Ph: 9650567690 > > > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing > list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / > change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
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