Noopur, while you're at it, don't forget to include QRPedia as well. On 12/13/11, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > What I meant is that someone should take up outreach coordination within > the community. That way documentation, compiling, connecting people with > other people is centralized and easier to manage. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:04 PM, <wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> There needs to be some kinda national coordination. In Mumbai, we are in >> touch with Raj Bhavan and the Maharashtra State Archives. >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:27:45 +0530 >> From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com >> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam >> >> >> Hello all :) >> I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in >> talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully >> because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the >> chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation >> who >> is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. >> SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up. >> >> I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more >> people who agree or disagree. *Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the >> bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a >> community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have >> a >> single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or >> updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * >> Warmly >> Noopur >> >> PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) ) >> >> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the >> Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration >> in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured >> Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are >> documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is >> what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture >> and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save >> it on Wiki. >> >> On 12/12/2011, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hey Pradeep and the rest of you, >> > >> > What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and >> > Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India >> > Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or >> > meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture >> of >> > good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very >> seriously, >> > every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk >> > more about that :) >> > Warmly >> > Noopur >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < >> > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> hi, >> >> >> >> Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and >> >> concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect. >> >> >> >> Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on >> >> building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and >> >> Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in >> >> art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in >> >> the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit >> >> and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that >> >> we need to foster more in the Indian community. >> >> There are people on this mailing list who are interested in >> >> participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and >> >> participate in the conversation. >> >> >> >> warm regards, >> >> Pradeep >> >> >> >> On 12/12/2011, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Dear all, >> >> > These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in >> >> > form >> >> > of >> >> > some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. >> >> > So, >> >> most >> >> > of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as >> >> > collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I >> am >> >> > grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in >> >> > helping >> >> > encourage GLAM participation in India. >> >> > This is the link to the programs: >> >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in >> each >> >> > session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? >> >> > >> >> > Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has >> >> pending >> >> > requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file >> >> > sharing. >> >> > Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata >> sharing, >> >> > open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that >> institutions >> >> go >> >> > by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or >> commons >> >> > is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar >> >> > archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? >> >> > >> >> > Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is >> >> > the >> >> > 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared >> >> > to your >> >> > own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not >> hard >> >> > either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? >> >> > >> >> > Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations >> (PPT), >> >> > simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple >> numbers, >> >> > percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. >> >> > Use >> >> > things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness >> of >> >> > ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. >> >> This >> >> > helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break >> >> > your >> >> > hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use >> >> > less >> >> > jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two >> >> solutions >> >> > (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY >> >> > week). >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain? >> >> > >> >> > This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is >> also >> >> > someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki >> loves >> >> > monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, >> >> > regional >> >> and >> >> > national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as >> a >> >> > fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at >> least >> >> > train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one >> >> contact >> >> > through another. >> >> > >> >> > (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in >> orientation. >> >> > From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building >> >> exercises, >> >> > it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving >> >> > people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing >> Wikipedia >> >> as >> >> > a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a >> >> > highly >> >> > concentrated yet a very niche community) >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > (Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM >> >> > request >> >> > page, why not India? >> >> > >> >> > Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally >> >> science >> >> > and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, >> few >> >> lay >> >> > people really know their culture or feel as passionately about >> >> > conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to >> >> > unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little >> >> > motivation >> >> > to >> >> > go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a >> large >> >> > communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really >> >> > a >> >> > matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India >> >> > really >> >> > needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art >> spaces, >> >> > have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller >> >> > individual >> >> > pilots (Sumanna) >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’? >> >> > >> >> > Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As >> >> > wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if >> there >> >> > were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent >> local >> >> > meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional >> >> > meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller >> goals >> >> and >> >> > activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG >> >> > updates. >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based >> >> > interactions? >> >> > >> >> > Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach >> coordinator. >> >> > Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM, >> >> tools, >> >> > updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a >> >> talk >> >> > or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local >> >> > community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of >> >> mouth, >> >> > social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have >> >> > a >> >> > loyal reader, enthusiast base. >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > What tools are used to digitize artifacts? >> >> > >> >> > Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to >> move >> >> > GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects >> >> > are >> >> > about? >> >> > >> >> > Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and >> >> > outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to >> >> recruit >> >> > new Wikimedians >> >> > >> >> > Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement >> >> > together. >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > >> >> > Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup? >> >> > >> >> > Go to institutions and say how can we help you >> >> > >> >> > Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that >> you >> >> get >> >> > focused group >> >> > >> >> > Organize a fb group and event >> >> > >> >> > Is there a monthly update? >> >> > >> >> > Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position >> >> > >> >> > Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English >> community >> >> > members >> >> > >> >> > Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and >> >> > GLAM >> >> are >> >> > intricately connected. >> >> > >> >> > Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of >> course, >> >> > mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved >> in >> >> > a >> >> > community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a >> >> > need >> >> > to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your >> >> > suggestions, >> >> > advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about >> criticism, >> >> > like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses! >> >> > >> >> > Warmly >> >> > >> >> > Noopur >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Noopur Raval >> >> > Student >> >> > Arts and Aesthetics >> >> > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >> >> > Ph: 9650567690 >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Pradeep Mohandas >> >> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Noopur Raval >> > Student >> > Arts and Aesthetics >> > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >> > Ph: 9650567690 >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Regards, >> Srikanth Ramakrishnan. >> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Noopur Raval >> Student >> Arts and Aesthetics >> Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >> Ph: 9650567690 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing >> list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / >> change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > > -- > Noopur Raval > Student > Arts and Aesthetics > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > Ph: 9650567690 >
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