No, it won't be stored in Wikisource, but still there is the need to present the information in a consistent manner. If you want to display the information on ns0, you will end up needing the same fields that the "Index:" page is using now. So why not to have the same solution for both?
It could also be a template with a reduced set of fields that expands to show "Template:Book" with linked data from Wikidata, no matter if they have supporting scans or not. Micru On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alex Brollo <alex.bro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Simply there is no need to store data twice or more, if they are > dinamically imported from wikidata. Such data would be simply generated by > a normal template. Something similar to Commons media sharing: most > wikipedians but beginners know that when you want to edit a shared media > file, you must do you edit in Commons; there's no need to host a media file > locally. > > So, IMHO a good Lua wikidata-reading library could avoid at all to store > data in wikisource, or wikipedia, or Commons. > > Alex > > > 2013/6/10 David Cuenca <dacu...@gmail.com> > >> @Alex: but what do you think of storing the source information in >> "Index:" pages for all works stored in Wikisource, even if they don't have >> a supporting scan? >> >> That was the original question :) >> >> About your proposed library, it would be more useful if it could modify >> data in Wikidata, not only import it. Besides, if the Wikidata client is >> installed in Wikisource, the inclusion syntax already takes care of >> displaying data... >> >> Micru >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alex Brollo <alex.bro...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I don't see the need to change deeply Index/ns0 relationship, while I >>> appreciate the idea "promote coherence reducing redundance" (many years ago >>> I painfully used dBase III - dBase IV and I learned that principle by "try >>> and learn"). >>> >>> Here: >>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Scribunto/Brainstorming a >>> brief message about relationship among wikidata, commons, wikisource and >>> any other project. Don't follow the link, it's so short that I copy it here >>> (but if you like it, comment it there): >>> >>> Scribunto-Lua and Wikidata >>> I'd like a library to get Wikidata content; it would be a good idea IMHO >>> to access to Wikidata data in plain form, just as such data would be Lua >>> tables/variables. --Alex brollo (talk) 13:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC) >>> >>> >>> If such a Lua library could be built, to import data from wikidata would >>> be as simple, as writing a template, and data will be self-aligned. >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> 2013/6/10 Aarti K. Dwivedi <ellydwivedi2...@gmail.com> >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>>> There was a thread some time ago where there were talks of having >>>> books which were born digital. These pages wouldn't have scans. >>>> What the 'Index' page would have in these cases is something I am not >>>> very sure about. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Rtdwivedi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:47 PM, David Cuenca <dacu...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> With the deployment of Wikidata it is a good moment to re-examine what >>>>> "Index" pages are and what should be their function. >>>>> The most direct transition to a Wikidata-supported Wikisource could be >>>>> something like this: >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/dacuetu/BookData.pdf >>>>> >>>>> That would allow: >>>>> - to share data book data between Commons, Wikisource and Wikipedia >>>>> - to update it, when any of the sites has been updated >>>>> - to facilitate better search functions (like searches by author, or >>>>> topic, limiting the date range or the language) >>>>> >>>>> That would only apply to those texts which use a "Index:" page, so now >>>>> the question is, what do we do with books that do not have supporting >>>>> scans >>>>> (and therefore no index page)? >>>>> >>>>> Some possible options: >>>>> a) ignore pages without sources and focus only on works with >>>>> supporting scans >>>>> b) use ns0 pages also as data containers (instead of, or in addition >>>>> to "Index" pages) >>>>> c) create "Index:" pages for all works, with or without scans. Use >>>>> that instead of "Template:Textinfo" >>>>> >>>>> Personally I prefer "option c", even if it would require to rename >>>>> "Index:" to "Source:" to make more clear what are those pages, however I >>>>> would like to hear the opinion of other wikisourcerors about this. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Micru >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>>>> Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Aarti K. 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