I'm glad this thread soon got to the point where we realise the
problem is on the application layer level.

So what are exactly the implications for blocking and related issues
when we will start to see ISP level NATing?
Am I right to assume that we will start seeing requests from say a
global ISP NAT which may cover many clients, XFF 10.x.x.x?

If so, do we need to be able to send both the ISP NAT IP, and the XFF
IP to the servers, and amend the software so that we are able to block
on the combination (so we can block, for example IP 9.10.11.12 XFF
10.45.68.15?)

Will we be needing anon user- and user talk pages for a combination of
ISP NAT IP and XFF IP? when ISP level NAT's show up?

kind regards, Martijn.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:01 PM, George Herbert
<george.herb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Aryeh Gregor
> <simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:50 PM, George Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> We have a few months, but by the end of 2012, any major site needs to
>>> be serving IPv6.
>>
>> Unlikely.  ISPs are just going to start forcing users to use NAT more
>> aggressively, use tunnelling, etc.  No residential client is going to
>> be given a connection that's incapable of accessing IPv4-only sites
>> until virtually all sites have switched, which is probably at least a
>> decade from now.  They'd (rightfully) cancel their subscription on the
>> grounds that the Internet doesn't work.
>>
>> Of course, it would be great if we could switch sooner, and I hope we
>> will.  But it's not like we'll *need* to.
>
> You're making assumptions here that the residential ISPs in the US and
> Asia have stated aren't true...
>
>
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