On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Matthew Flaschen

I set up http://jsfiddle.net/UPBUH/ as a quick testing ground.

Nice, I tweaked it to make
http://jsfiddle.net/UPBUH/7/<http://jsfiddle.net/UPBUH/6/>, you can
see what your browser + O.S. picks for each font name in the font
stack.

 When I check the Fonts tab of Firefox's Web Console (not Firebug), it
> shows "Nimbus Sans L Bold system".  Used as:  "Nimbus Sans L".
>
I get the same.
FWIW Chromium does something different for me, it's matching Helvetica but
not using Nimbus Sans L. something more like Liberation Sans.

>
>  we're saying we want to use that free font (because it's a free, and fits
> our intended design well).
>
If it's as good or better than Helvetica Neue, I think everyone agrees the
free font should come first. Yo, designers...? I think Quim goes further to
argue our sans-serif font list should be
   "Nimbus Sans L", "Liberation Sans", sans-serif
I have no idea what that font stack does on Windows/Mac/iOS/Android. It's
the last thing in http://jsfiddle.net/UPBUH/7/ , can people report back?

Kaldari:
"Nimbus Sans L" is the files n019003l.{afm,pfb,pfm} in
http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/all/gsfonts/download , the command to
extract one file is
   $ dpkg --fsys-tarfile /path/to/gsfonts_blahblah.deb | tar xOf -
./usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/n019003l.pfb > /tmp/NimbusSansL.pfb
and I sent the files to you on a 3 1/2" floppy ☺

Cheers,
-- 
=S Page  Features engineer
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