Jon,

Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template
is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to
fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to
edit the template (e.g. because it's protected), then speak to Tomasz and
he will try to get you the rights that you need.

Regarding the broader issue of the fact that there are thousands of these
kinds of templates, I will also echo Brion! We need to make mobile testing
more visible to those who are creating those templates.

Dan

On 7 October 2014 15:14, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson <jrob...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in
> > templates. For example:
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68001
> >
> > When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it is
> > because of a troublesome inline style in the template and then we
> > communicate this on the template talk page [1]
> >
> > However, rarely do these get replies and rarely does anything get fixed.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong? Should I be posting these problems
> > elsewhere? It seems like a lot of templates do not have active
> > maintainers.
> >
>
> The wiki way is not to ask and wait for someone else to act, but to act
> directly in good faith and communicate what you did and why so that if
> there is disagreement it can be resolved afterwards.
>
> Ultimately if we're unwilling to help edit and maintain the content and
> style of the wikis, we're going to be stuck working around bad styles
> forever.
>
>
> > There has been an RFC [2] open for ages that when solved I hope will
> > lead to lots of discussions between developers and template
> > maintainers but right now it seems even without the tools we are
> > failing.
> >
> > How can we get better at making our template styles more mobile friendly?
> >
> > [2]
> >
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Allow_styling_in_templates
> >
>
> I'd like to revitalize this one; I'll do some testing this weekend and put
> it on the agenda for next week's RfC.
>
> I'm also interested in some kind of easy "preview how this page will look
> on mobile" in the editor, which would probably be a separate thing...
>
> -- brion
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Dan Garry
Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps
Wikimedia Foundation
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