<quote name="Rob Lanphier" date="2016-01-28" time="11:52:11 -0800"> > Generally speaking, the position WMF executive management has taken in the > conversations that I've had is that WMF needs to do a better job listening > to the community. Saying that ArchCom has "no say" basically is taking a > needlessly fatalistic stance of a mindless wage slave. I know y'all well > enough to know that everyone on this thread is intensely mission-driven, > and "mindless" is about as far from a truthful description anyone could > give.
I think the charitable interpretation is that it was/is unclear to some (I'm mostly going off of my interpretation of some of the questions asked during the planning phase of the DevSummit here (aka: hearsay)) if the DevSummit was going to be a "place of decisions" or something else (education, etc), and if it was to be a place of decisions then without explicit buy-in from WMF management those decisions could be less-than-timely implemented (if those who could do the implementation were a contested "resource" with some other high priority request that wasn't at the DevSummit). Apologies for my long sentence with too many parentheticals. > ArchCom strives to define what we should do, based on listening to the > community and using our collective expertise to craft a vision based on > what we learn. What "WMF senior leadership" (pls define) does with that > information is probably not in scope for this mailing list. Except for when what I outlined above happens, aka something that has general consensus within the "community" and even ArchCom doesn't get any legs because those who could/should do it are tasked with other things. In other words: it's not unreasonable to assume those people won't spend their personal time doing that work. However, this might be rat-holing on this one aspect around "resourcing", so I'm willing to both be told I'm wrong and drop it. Greg -- | Greg Grossmeier GPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | identi.ca: @greg A18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D | _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l