Hi all,

I am not sure what you mean by native, but the SecureW2 TTLS Client has been
ported successfully to Vista and will be released soon as a BETA.

In an early experiment with SecureW2 I have also implemented the server side
of TTLS in IAS (Windows 2K). I left it alone as I figured no one would be
interested.

Regards,

Tom Rixom
SecureW2

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Jonn Martell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: donderdag 8 februari 2007 22:05
> Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Desire for Windows native TTLSv0
> 
> Having TTLS support in Windows would be great. It would make so much
> sense for implementers. It would be a miracle really!  I'm all for it.
> 
> Call me skeptical but I don't see it happening.  I participated in the
> IEEE working groups a few years back and had the opportunity to ask
> that specific questions to some of the key Microsoft engineers working
> on the stacks. At that time, it was an *absolute* NO - if that has
> changed, great but I see no indication of Microsoft doing it. As of
> December 2006, the official word from
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/ias/iasfaq.mspx is "Microsoft
> does not plan to support Tunneled TTLS."
> 
> In my opinion, the only way it would appear in Windows is if they saw
> market share loss to another desktop OS because of lack of EAP-TTLS
> support. Last time I visited the local computer stores a few days ago,
> I found it hard to find a laptop that had Windows XP, let alone other
> types of OS - they are all Vista!
> 
> I admire our friends in Europe and their support for TTLS and cross
> edu roaming with eduroam.
> 
> But having years of experience supporting clients, the last thing I
> would advise an EDU client to do is support a 3rd party client on
> Microsoft.  One patch can ruin your day and users would blame "your"
> 3rd party app.  Not that I don't trust Microsoft... In an environment
> as diverse EDUs, it's a little scary to support 3rd party apps. So
> far, I've been a supporter of doing the work on the back end to
> support PEAP (MS-Chapv2)
> 
> As for supporting PEAP - there's is always a way to do it but it's not
> always pretty :-)  I call be being a "Microsoft compatible" backend.
> :-)
> 
> As for inventing and supporting other EAP types - oh goodness - no...
> I think we already have a good "collection" to do almost all the
> things we need to do :-)
> 
>  ... Jonn Martell, Martell Consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.martell.ca
> 
> On 2/8/07, Walt Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In a conversation I had with Microsoft, it was implied that if there is
> > a demand for it, Microsoft would add TTLSv0 into the native Vista OS.
> >
> > Since there is a lot of talk on the EAP types today, I thought I would
> > post my own question.  How many of you out there would like to have
> > TTLSv0 native within Windows.
> >
> > Many out there will of course be using PEAP.  But for those out there
> > that don't, or can't, please let me know.
> >
> > As a secondary question, who would be interested if there was some sort
> > of Kerberos EAP (not TTLS with PAP).
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Walt Reynolds
> > Principle Systems Security Development Engineer
> > Information Technology Central Services
> > University of Michigan
> > (734) 615-9438
> >
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