We're lucky in that we do not allow any device onto the wireless
network that does not support 802.1x and PEAP.
As a previous poster mentioned, it can be very difficult to stop users
from using your non-secure networks if they are still available.
This policy would not be viable in all institutions but here we
provided several months of lead time prior to the switch and heard
very little grumbling. The message to the institution was that "the
network has to be secure" and we can't allow any insecure backdoors.
For gaming consoles we tell students to plug into the wired network.
For PDAs, we recommend devices that do support 802.1x. Later versions
of Windows Mobile can access the network as well as the new iPhones.
FWIW, we also chose Microsoft IAS over Cisco ACS and use AD as our
backend. It has worked well with the Cisco controllers. We have even
done dynamic VLAN assignment based off AD group membership since day
one and have not had any issues.
Walt
On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Jenkins, Matthew wrote:
Thanks everyone for your quick responses! As far as the EAP method
goes, we will primarily be using MS AD to authenticate. I figured
we would use MS IAS unless there is something better to sit between
MS AD. I'll have to check out Jorge's suggestion of using Funk.
We are having a large issue with people wanting to register
playstations, pdas, and such on the wireless. Currently we can't do
it because our guest network is using the basic Cisco auth page. As
far as laptop guests go if we were using 802.1x, we can give out
temporary 1-day accounts. However, how is everyone handling PDAs
and gaming consoles that do not support 802.1x?
Thanks,
Matt
Matthew Jenkins
Network/Server Administrator
Fairmont State University
Visit us online at www.fairmontstate.edu
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on
behalf of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Thu 7/24/2008 4:38 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLAN 4400 Controllers and 802.1x
I think the biggest challenge was (and still is to some extent)
getting people to use it and not user our Guest access or PDA
access. We don’t require guests configure 1x and not all PDA’s can
even do 1x. As a result, sometimes people use the network we provide
for that instead of using the 1x network. It required a major
publicity campaign to get everyone to make the switch.
Pete Morrissey
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] On Behalf OfJenkins, Matthew
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:01 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLAN 4400 Controllers and 802.1x
How many others are doing 802.1x in a Cisco LWAPP environment? Have
you had success with it, or would you recommend another route for
authentication? Currently we are using VPNs over our secure
wireless and I am investigating whether we would be ahead to start
using 802.1x coupled with WPA. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
Matthew Jenkins
Network/Server Administrator
Fairmont State University
Visit us online at www.fairmontstate.edu
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