One of the things that we looked at was the cost of the enclosures for 800+ APs versus the cost to replace damaged ones. We figured out that on average it would probably cost less each year to replace damaged APs than to protect them all with enclosures. Then of course there was the issue with making future models fit in existing enclosures, etc. But as Mike said in 4+ years we haven't really had any incidents.
Someone mentioned that their ethernet cables sometimes get unplugged, did you mean from the AP itself or from the jack? Our units (Cisco 1300's/1400's) mount on top of the box so that there is no jack exposed, and there is a locking plate with a lock on it that hides the cable/connector, and keeps the AP from being removed. I assumed that this was standard practice with most makes/models. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Brian Helman <bhel...@salemstate.edu>wrote: > We're using Xirrus products. The enclosures are no more difficult to > install than a simple mount .. maybe easier. Where we do use mounts rather > than enclosures, we use covers on the arrays. The units "disappear" into > the ceiling that way. We've also started running 2 cables to each array -- > one for data w/poe and the other for a console. We can perform manual > reboots and direct configs from the IDF's, if for some reason an array > becomes unresponsive. > > We are only placing units in public (common) areas in our Res Halls, with > the exception of the Hall Directors' apartments. Our 2-cable scheme lets us > service the arrays without having to enter the apts. > > -Brian > > ________________________________________ > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey [ > ppmor...@syr.edu] > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:51 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure > > As Lee points out, most of our 3,000 intalled over the past 10 years are > indeed in public areas. Another thing to factor in for enclosures is the > labor to install them, and also the extra time and labor to replace an AP > that goes bad that is in an enclosure. And, if you upgrade your AP’s, you > have to deal with the enclosures for every single one of them, assuming the > new AP’s fit in them. > > Pete M. > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Kaftan > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:32 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure > > I have always thought we would install in the hallways. For those of you > who have said they install in student rooms I’d like to understand when and > why you do so. I’ve assumed that we would want to always have access in > case an AP goes south. > > > John Kaftan > Infrastructure Manager > Utica College > 315.792.3102 > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:23 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure > > We’re going on about 3,000 installed, and I think one may have been > vandalized. Our students love their wireless and seem to understand what > makes it possible. There is clearly no ROI for enclosures. You can install a > lot of extra wireless connectivity for the price you would pay for the > enclosures and invest in a couple of spares for insurance. Hall phones are > another matter. Those get destroyed on a regular basis. > > Pete M. > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Joe Rogers > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:16 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure > > > We too elected to install our residence hall access points without > protective enclosures. So far there have been no issues in the past ~4 > years with the approximately 1100 we have deployed. We do normally place > them into student rooms rather than hallways or common areas so that we know > who to talk to if there ever is a problem. > > Joe > > On 03/17/2011 12:08 PM, Michael P Hizny wrote: > We installed AP enclosures in our first dorm building when we went > wireless. After that we decided to take a chance and see what happened > instead of adding the extra cost. The students see the wireless as a great > service. In 4 years we have not had one vandalized. We have over 800 of > them installed in our residence halls on both the walls and on the ceiling. > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of John Kaftan > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:40 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Enclosure > > Has anybody found a good solution for AP enclosures? Our older Residence > Halls do not have drop ceilings so we cannot hide the APs. We have found > that most things visible get destroyed. Our standard APs have internal > antennas so I’d like to find a box that is RF transparent. I found one by > Oberon Model 1025 but at $240 ea I don’t see us making it happen. I do have > some older APs I can use that are a\b\g that have external antennas that I > can use if need be. > > http://oberonwireless.com/outdoor_nema-access-point-enclosures.php > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > -- Joe Roth Networking Group Binghamton University Ph. 607-777-7528 Fax 607-777-4009 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
