Same same here....

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, supporting 
Bonjour, etc...

I am working with Apple and our bookstore to set up a an Airport specifically 
to support the Tune&Play demo station but that's just for the immediate area 
and not for general use.
-Scott


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Lee H Badman 
<lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote:
I'm still seeing a lot of potential drawbacks to this, despite Cisco going 
above and beyond to accommodate Apple's shame. I also have to wonder- is anyone 
willingly doing what we all know is also undesirable- popping up one-off 
topologies for isolated AppleTV and AirPrint (and Chromecast for that matter), 
outside of the controller environment, and just living with the limits and 
interference?

Fess up now, you're among friends. :)

-Lee

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 On Behalf Of Mike Albano
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, supporting 
Bonjour, etc...

I am also running 7.5, utilizing the mDNS AP feature. This allows the devices 
(AppleTV's) to be plugged into a wired connection. Much less channel util. when 
screen-sharing is only going over Wireless in one direction. It works well. The 
simple guide is here:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/bonjour/7.5/Bonjour_Gateway_Phase-2_WLC_software_release_7.5.html#wp44530

You can designate an mDNS ap at the distribution layer, or choose an ap in ea. 
building, if your need crosses distribution routers.

Mike

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, supporting 
Bonjour, etc...
Hi  Rick-

Thanks for the response.

I guess I knew Prime wasn't involved in Bonjour per se- I should have asked the 
question with more clarity. Wondering if PI was helping in any way with the 
management of zones, etc, as given our size we could have lots of them.

If you don't mind sharing (could do a call if you'd rather), what is your 
typical "bring a Bonjour zone to life scenario"? Someone says they want to use 
AirPlay or AppleTV where you don't yet have a zone, and then...? Are you seeing 
cases where it's being relied on for classroom use, has a hiccup, and becomes 
an emergency response because instruction is disrupted? And which version of 
Cisco's cookbook are you using- the one with Broadcast enabled on the WLAN or 
the one with Unicast?


Again, Thank you.


-Lee


From: Rick Coloccia, Jr. [mailto:coloc...@geneseo.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:02 AM
To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv; Lee H Badman
Subject: Re: For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, supporting Bonjour, etc...

Bonjour first comes to the party with 7.4.  I had a long talk with the Cisco 
people (many hours over several days inside a tac case regarding bonjour and 
print servers) about the differences between 7.4 and 7.5 with regard to 
Bonjour.  7.5 introduces a "zone" concept, where only certain Bonjour sources 
are repeated to certain place.  The core functionality is the same, though, 
between 7.4 and 7.5.  If you go to 7.5, you can't go to prime 2, you'll need to 
wait for prime 2.1.

Now, all that said, we're running 7.4.110.0, with almost 900 APs on 7 
controllers, and Bonjour is working.  Yep. I wrote that.  Apple tvs and 
printers "just show up."  Users are happy.  Yep.  I wrote that, too.

Prime isn't involved at all in Bounjour, not in the very least.

Feel free to shoot questions over.

-Rick


On 10/10/2013 10:54 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
I have heard tangentially that 7.5 helps the cause of supporting AppleTVs  
better than last couple of versions (no discredit to Cisco for trying to solve 
Apple's shortcomings). Is there anyone running 7.5 on a big, prod WLAN that can 
say they are having an acceptable, low-support/low-confusion-for-users 
experience with lots of Apple Bonjour-dependent devices in use? Is PI helping 
with this in any way?

Just trying to get a read before we go to 7.5.

(I am aware of Bonjour gateways and what other vendors are doing, hoping to 
keep answers limited to Cisco 7.5)

Thanks very much-

Lee Badman

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